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(01-05-2010 18:08 )MARCCE Wrote:  

(01-05-2010 16:50 )astonv1 Wrote:  But they didn't really go further...a few flashes of the pussy and a simulated strap on segment but nothing really more than you see on an average night from Amanda for example! Im an existing subscriber so it wasn't an issue for me but if Marcee was happy to pay £5.99 for that then fair play to him he obviously has money to burn!!!

The very fact they took their knickers off and actually showed something meant they went further.

It was quite obviously harder stuff then the normal fta shows. That isn't even in question.

And as I originally said, in my opinion, it was worth a one off payment to see Bonnie go further than she ever has on live tv.

Can i just throw a little more of my tuppence worth into this thread by saying that taking off knickers and showing something has happened years ago and was more explicit and if you check out some of the videos on this forum such as those with dani o neal you will see that she did a phone in show with no knickers on and pussy clearly visible at numerous times.
In an encrypted show i would expect the very minimum to be something like the above and without any hindrance or covering up by the use of clever camera angles and other techniques.The old sport xxx encrypted shows of a few years back were much more explicit than this offering from red hot and i for one would not pay nearly six quid to view it.

and if you look at bailey now on 954 that is nearer to my expectations not too high.

(01-05-2010 21:42 )gunflash10 Wrote:  The old sport xxx encrypted shows of a few years back were much more explicit than this offering from red hot

Yes but didn't sportxxx get into trouble with Ofcom and got told to tone their encrypted show down?

(01-05-2010 21:58 )cosmonaut Wrote:  

(01-05-2010 21:42 )gunflash10 Wrote:  The old sport xxx encrypted shows of a few years back were much more explicit than this offering from red hot

Yes but didn't sportxxx get into trouble with Ofcom and got told to tone their encrypted show down?

Not any that i watched cosmonaut all were fairly explicit and much more so than todays offerings.So ill reiterate by saying that encrypted shows should be more explicit otherwise it really defeats the purpose of encryption in the first place.

The show was trailed as having babes perform extreme acts and implied a large cast. I didn't expect hardcore penetration shots, or even high risk near-penetration ball-bouncing shots like on some carefully edited recorded shows.

But I was hoping for plenty of fanny close ups (allowed), side-on oral, side-on penetration, looking down from the head oral and penetration. At least 4 female presenters working in different combinations. Live orgasm. Perhaps even some boy-girl. No penis shots obviously, but it is 100% legal to have real sex acts in encrypted shows, just as long as the detail is not shown. Cum could be shown landing on a babe's face or fanny, just as long as they didn't show it leaving the station.

I also expected - not hoped but expected - to see hot enthusiastic babes.

Shaving, oil and anal would have been nice. Face sitting. The odd 3sum.

Instead there were 2 unenthusiastic and not outstanding babes moving very woodenly, stopping to take directions, hardly showing fanny, and mostly faking it. Plenty of air-flicking and oral from 6 inches away. A few dildos were held near the fanny, but didn't seem to move in and out, and some seemed to be in the wrong place unless the babes were anatomically deformed. They weren't even enthusiastic about playing with each others breasts.

Using presenters who had already done a 2 hour free show earlier without a break was probably a bad move as they can hardly have been fresh, and they didn't get a single break in the 2 hour encrypted show, so that's 4 hours without a fag, wee, drink or chewing gum. I have seen more enthusiam and had more of a rise out of free-to-air 2-4-1s on Elite.

The show was so weak I started hopping over to the other RedHot channels and even a few of the free ones, and would have spent more time there if it hadn't been a one-off live show.

I spent more time on the other RH channels after, and ironically some showed just what strength of material IS legal. Not enough to rock my boat normally, but seeing the same stuff live would have added a couple of Viagra points.

Bottom line: Even if it is on next week, or next month, I won't be rushing see the show again unless the format drastically changes.

See some of the vids in the following link http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.ph...916&page=1 then try and tell us expectations were too high!!!


Thats what an encrypted show should be like!

the thing is i am not comparing it with other channels because that would be wrong,mainly because they was a few years ago.

what i am comparing it to is there own programmes like sextalk live and xxxcallgirls.
because they was not banned to my knowledge, they just stopped doing the shows and them shows where at the strength i was expecting.

and it was nice to see bonnie naked for the novelty factor thats all it was.

overall there was nothing wrong with the format of the show just the execution was wrong.

(02-05-2010 00:37 )daz c Wrote:  what i am comparing it to is there own programmes like sextalk live and xxxcallgirls.
because they was not banned to my knowledge, they just stopped doing the shows

No they weren't banned as far as I know, they were just discontinued.

(01-05-2010 21:42 )gunflash10 Wrote:  Can i just throw a little more of my tuppence worth into this thread by saying that taking off knickers and showing something has happened years ago and was more explicit and if you check out some of the videos on this forum such as those with dani o neal you will see that she did a phone in show with no knickers on and pussy clearly visible at numerous times.
In an encrypted show i would expect the very minimum to be something like the above and without any hindrance or covering up by the use of clever camera angles and other techniques.The old sport xxx encrypted shows of a few years back were much more explicit than this offering from red hot and i for one would not pay nearly six quid to view it.

We're not talking about what happened years ago. Ofcom have tightened up since then.

The claim being made was that some people on here feel they paid money to see nothing more than is currently available on the babe channels

On the current babe channels there has been no full frontal nudity for at least 3 years. There has been no sign of even a toy for about the same time.

Sure, people can have their opinions as to how far they expected this show to go but for people to say it was no harder than a normal night on the babeshows is wrong.

(02-05-2010 13:16 )MARCCE Wrote:  

(01-05-2010 21:42 )gunflash10 Wrote:  Can i just throw a little more of my tuppence worth into this thread by saying that taking off knickers and showing something has happened years ago and was more explicit and if you check out some of the videos on this forum such as those with dani o neal you will see that she did a phone in show with no knickers on and pussy clearly visible at numerous times.
In an encrypted show i would expect the very minimum to be something like the above and without any hindrance or covering up by the use of clever camera angles and other techniques.The old sport xxx encrypted shows of a few years back were much more explicit than this offering from red hot and i for one would not pay nearly six quid to view it.

We're not talking about what happened years ago. Ofcom have tightened up since then.

The claim being made was that some people on here feel they paid money to see nothing more than is currently available on the babe channels

On the current babe channels there has been no full frontal nudity for at least 3 years. There has been no sign of even a toy for about the same time.

Sure, people can have their opinions as to how far they expected this show to go but for people to say it was no harder than a normal night on the babeshows is wrong.

yes ofcom have tightened up since them shows, and i am glad you was happy with what you saw.
its just that when you compare there own shows from the back end of last year that is where the disapointment starts,which i think is reasonable enough to expect them to stay at that standard.
but that is just my own personal view.
and yes fair enough it was a little stronger than the fta channels but still a little too close to them for my liking.