US Election & Presidency

(20-10-2020 07:25 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  You brought the remark up in the first place, not me!! I was merely questioning how you can even compare Trump to Jesus and you said Jesus was a radical and you haven't even attempted to back that remark up with how Jesus can be considered a radical.
Trump can't perform miracles. Even if he has done, face the fact that the virus is slowly undoing all the good work he may have done and when it is over, the trust cost of the pandemic wil probably even outweigh any real positives Trump may have done in four years.

And i agree just get your bloody head out of Trump's arse.

The NHS is wonderful if you actually take the time to appreciate how much bloody hard work it is and how hard the staff work in showing care to patients so appreciate the NHS for once. In the In the meantime, I'll sure as hell won't allow that orange lard get his hands on the NHS if I have anything to do with it. So any trade deal Trump cares to put on the table, that involves the NHS, he can shove that deal up that fat ass of his.

Oh goody, let's have a discussion about religion if you really insist lol. I mean, do you really have to ask why Jesus (or Mr Jesus as I like to call him) was a radical? Look at what the Jews of the time did to him. They saw Mr Jesus, a fellow Jew as a heretic and gave him up to the Romans. His preaching that he was the son of God was pretty fucking radical.

Now obviously The Donald isn't a fucking miracle performer but in his way he's been a radical messiah that people like me have been waiting for. He made establishment Republicans flip out by his very nature and has tried to drain the swamp. He's building a massive fucking wall which no other candidate or his predecessors in the White House dared to propose, that's one thing that probably is miraculous.

And if the virus has done economic damage to Trump's economy,hes far from alone given that the pandemic has laid waste to many economies around the world. That's entirely down to China. Yet all I see is Trump, Trump, Trump from leftards. So fucking boring.

Sorry but the NHS is a joke. It can't cope with record demand and it's quality of care sucks.

Get rid of the fucking moderators is what they should do. Fucking pricks always try to make the debate about themselves (although Joe Rogan would be the one good moderator).

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(20-10-2020 08:00 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  And if they went to war with Israel on a military front they know they'll end up fighting the US as well. I reckon if anything Trump brokered a fuck all deal that just made that powder keg region a whole lot more unstable and probably blew any real reasonable chance of a true peace deal made by Blair out of the water

How is the deal making the region more unstable? What a horrible thing where one less country is shunning Israel on such puny motives.

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(20-10-2020 12:49 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  Well, the way you talk & post seems to suggest you would have done a far worse job than Trump is doing....

You say that but I think my proposals of invading Canada for the lulz, converting the Moon into a Death Star and urinating over the EU flag at my inauguration would be extremely popular.

(20-10-2020 09:23 )Goodfella3041 Wrote:  (And at the risk of getting my butt hurt again, I'll just repeat that Trump only managed a strong and growing economy that he inherited from Obama, who rescued a wounded economy that he inherited from Bush).

The economy under Obama wasn't impressive, especially coming off a recession that was the worst since the 30s. Trump has a point there (among many).

So,, from what I can glean from your NHS comment, then I assume you are one who is able to afford private hospital care & someone who would never set foot in a NHS hospital. If you take a look inside a NHS hospital you will find they are a lot cleaner and more better designed than they used to be. My local hospital is small but well designed and clean and the staff are friendly.


Say all you want but right at the start of this, Trump shot his own bolt when called the virus ' a hoax', suggested people cured themselves
of the virus by drinking bleach, took fucking horse tranquilizers as protection. in my eyes he is a dead President walking on Nov 4th, but he is also just a nutcase who has abused the power and office of the Presidency to the point where it will probably take years for any President of the US to be even taken seriously. HIS PRESIDENCY IS A JOKE.

Oh, so Jesus isn't just a radical but a heretic now is he?
Well, at least he proved who he was, when he rose again three days later didn't he?

(20-10-2020 01:23 )Slabhead Wrote:  

(19-10-2020 00:37 )Dave_A Wrote:  More Americans voted for Hillary than they did for Donald, she won the popular vote by a few million .

Thanks for the breaking news

That's OK, no need to thank me, i'm always happy to provide info

It's not really breaking news tho, although i'm happy to take the credit .
Hillary beating Donald in the popular vote by a few millions, has been common knowledge for some time .

Now now Slabhead yet again you seem to have difficulty with facts. Are so so like Trump that you don’t read but are better with pictures? You are welcome to your rancid opinions but you can’t have your own facts. In four years Trump has built 307 miles of wall (figures from US Customs & Border Protection at 1/9/20)

Of those 307 miles just 5 yes just 5 are new wall. The rest is replacement of existing border wall. So Slabhead if as you state no other president was involved in authorising building of any wall how did it get there?

Oh and Trump has done fuck all about “draining the swamp” Pro Trump lobbyists are all over his administration and have obtained big contracts for their clients in the Covid “hoax” as I’m sure you would call it. Not forgetting Trumps golfing costs and shovelling of government spending to his properties.

He’s no messiah - he’s a cult leader

(20-10-2020 13:22 )Slabhead Wrote:  

(20-10-2020 08:00 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  And if they went to war with Israel on a military front they know they'll end up fighting the US as well. I reckon if anything Trump brokered a fuck all deal that just made that powder keg region a whole lot more unstable and probably blew any real reasonable chance of a true peace deal made by Blair out of the water

How is the deal making the region more unstable? What a horrible thing where one less country is shunning Israel on such puny motives.

The Middle East has always been a powder keg since the year dot, there have likely been far more bloody wars in that region and is more volatile than any other region in the world, and if it blows wide open military - wise - we're all in trouble.

(20-10-2020 13:11 )Slabhead Wrote:  Now obviously The Donald isn't a fucking miracle performer but in his way he's been a radical messiah that people like me have been waiting for. He made establishment Republicans flip out by his very nature and has tried to drain the swamp. He's building a massive fucking wall which no other candidate or his predecessors in the White House dared to propose, that's one thing that probably is miraculous.

What does any of this even mean?

Apart from hollow sloganeering and rabble-rousing at rallies, what does "drain the swamp" mean and how has Trump done it?

They never explained what good the wall would do, they never got Mexico to pay for it, they virtually shut down the federal government for a month to try (and fail) to fund it, and then they diverted military funding to build 200 miles of 'wall' -- most of which was actually replacement of existing fences.

If Jesus had performed miracles this badly, he'd still be alive and doing card tricks in Jerusalem.

The whole enterprise is such a con:

Step 1: Invent a Crisis. (Remember the marauding hoards that were coming in caravans from Honduras? They seemed to get a lot less maraud-y after the 2018 mid-terms.)
Step 2: Proclaim Yourself the Only Person who Can Resolve the Crisis.
Step 3: Do Nothing.
Step 4: Declare the Crisis Over. (Which is easy enough to do, because there never was a crisis)


[N.b. ^^^ Also works for unnecessarily exiting European trading blocks]

(20-10-2020 02:14 )Slabhead Wrote:  I'll say this, if Trump loses (and I mean properly loses without any skullduggery going on with the ballots) then I promise I will leave this forum.

So is that like a Trump promise to release his taxes? Or like a Lindsey Graham "I want you to use my own words against me" statement?

(20-10-2020 13:40 )Goodfella3041 Wrote:  what does "drain the swamp" mean and how has Trump done it?

At it's heart, it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't need to. This is where the 'right' (in as much as 'wings' are even relevant anymore) are winning the war of rhetoric. Three word slogans that signal to a type of person the 'centre' and 'left' have either lost, or never had.

He says 'drain the swamp' and these people get to decide what that means to them. What the swamp is, who/what is in it etc. It's similar with 'build the wall', and also over here with 'take back control'.

I say this as a fully paid up lefty... the left are so, so fucking shit at stuff like this. Way too long winded. Too wordy. Too preachy. When their opponents can just say three words and millions of voters look at them and say, 'he gets it'...