US Election & Presidency

(16-02-2017 14:54 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(16-02-2017 13:14 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  Reagan with Gorbachev rightly can take credit for helping to end the cold war buy there really isn't a lot more to his legacy.

And there needs to be?

Tell me what Obamas legacy is? Other than being the first black President that is.

Good solid job, that's it.

What if, and it's only an if, Trump managed to absoultely smash ISIS? Would the ends justify the means?

your response sums up everything that is wrong with your very average republican. You only think in terms of military.

^ You can add to that
- rescuing the US car industry when he inherited the mess of the financial crisis.
- introducing the Affordable Care Act
- reformed Wall St to protect against another financial crash
- cut the unemployment rate from 10% to less than 5%
- ended the war in Iraq
- reversed Bush era torture policies
Etc etc etc
Wackawoo you don't seem to be able to get past the fact that Obama is black. Is that a problem for you?

(16-02-2017 15:24 )SecretAgent Wrote:  ^ You can add to that
- rescuing the US car industry when he inherited the mess of the financial crisis.
- introducing the Affordable Care Act
- reformed Wall St to protect against another financial crash
- cut the unemployment rate from 10% to less than 5%
- ended the war in Iraq
- reversed Bush era torture policies
Etc etc etc
Wackawoo you don't seem to be able to get past the fact that Obama is black. Is that a problem for you?

It's the only thing republicans can point at that he was black.

(16-02-2017 12:25 )wackawoo Wrote:  So let me get this right. I point out that 41% did not aprove Obama, what ever the spin you want to put on it, 41% did not tick the aprove box, and this means I am likened to Goebels

Your methods are very similar to Goebbels, so I'd say it was a fair comparison.

Turning the point that only 2 US presidents since the second world war have left office with a higher approval rating than Obama into a discussion about percentages was classic Goebbels.

(16-02-2017 15:23 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  your response sums up everything that is wrong with your very average republican. You only think in terms of military.

You seem to have Nelson eyes. I have mentioned exactly the same subjects you have.

As for brokering the end of the cold war that's monumentally historical in anybodys books.

Becasue it's Reagan it's a matter of. well yes it did that, meh, BUT THE REST WAS NOTHING.

If Obama had pulled that off, poeple would be creaming themselves from now till kingdom.

(16-02-2017 15:26 )Glenn Miller Wrote:  Your methods are very similar to Goebbels, so I'd say it was a fair comparison.

Turning the point that only 2 US presidents since the second world war have left office with a higher approval rating than Obama into a discussion about percentages was classic Goebbels.

And what if I was Jewish? and what If I had friends that were Jewish? A few weeks back on here a few people shit themselves when I happen to mention in passng that there were troubles in NI, but you think it's 'fair' to liken somebody, anybody, to members (let alone leading ones) of a regeim that was responcible for 55 milion death? Like I say, I'm glad I'm not an extremist and have such a poisoned mind as that.

May be you would like to illuminate me, but how is stating the fact that 41% of people who voted did not click the aprove box, which, was my original statement, is anything link a Nazi spin doctor; other than the most tenuous link i think I've seen, even on this forum.

It's nothing more that a fact, 41% didn't tick aprove.

Personaly, I do not take the narrow minded view that you people do, I look at the whole arch.

You never know, from THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, Trump may end up was just as good approval rating, more people voted for him than aproved Obama.

(16-02-2017 15:25 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  It's the only thing republicans can point at that he was black.

He seems to have traded on it enough.

(16-02-2017 18:40 )wackawoo Wrote:  You seem to have Nelson eyes. I have mentioned exactly the same subjects you have.

As for brokering the end of the cold war that's monumentally historical in anybodys books.

Becasue it's Reagan it's a matter of. well yes it did that, meh, BUT THE REST WAS NOTHING.

If Obama had pulled that off, poeple would be creaming themselves from now till kingdom.

You said Reagan's presidency was great, one event on its own doesn't make a great 4 years. Gorbachev probably made the bigger impact anyway. Stop bringing Obama into everything in some weak attempt to create impact.

(16-02-2017 18:57 )wackawoo Wrote:  He seems to have traded on it enough.

Well done you have just discredited any impact you can have in this thread by showing yourself to be a white supremacist.

(16-02-2017 18:56 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(16-02-2017 15:26 )Glenn Miller Wrote:  Your methods are very similar to Goebbels, so I'd say it was a fair comparison.

Turning the point that only 2 US presidents since the second world war have left office with a higher approval rating than Obama into a discussion about percentages was classic Goebbels.

And what if I was Jewish? and what If I had friends that were Jewish? A few weeks back on here a few people shit themselves when I happen to mention in passng that there were troubles in NI, but you think it's 'fair' to liken somebody, anybody, to members (let alone leading ones) of a regeim that was responcible for 55 milion death? Like I say, I'm glad I'm not an extremist and have such a poisoned mind as that.

May be you would like to illuminate me, but how is stating the fact that 41% of people who voted did not click the aprove box, which, was my original statement, is anything link a Nazi spin doctor; other than the most tenuous link i think I've seen, even on this forum.

It's nothing more that a fact, 41% didn't tick aprove.

Personaly, I do not take the narrow minded view that you people do, I look at the whole arch.

You never know, from THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, Trump may end up was just as good approval rating, more people voted for him than aproved Obama.

Obama did 8 years with little drama. Trump has only done a month and already the are whispers of impeachment.