US Election & Presidency

(03-02-2017 06:44 )munch1917 Wrote:  To be fair, I've read several reports on this incident, from different outlets including the one you linked to on msn, and I wouldn't call any of them 'anti trump propaganda'.
The articles I read were a pretty good summary of the facts as they were available at the time (things changed as more information became available). Maybe I'm reading different articles to you, but just because they report that Trump signed off on this mission, doesn't make it propaganda, or an attack on Trump, it's just stating facts.

It's propaganda, facts would be, several civilians were killed on a raid etc.

This is why they use a childs picture in the article and none of the adults.

I don't remember any pictures from years ago. It was 'an attack on Iraq happened several cicivians were killed including chidren', collateral damage, soz about that.

When you start adding pictures of cute little girls at the top of the article, that's when it tips it from being a report of the facts to something emotive, especially when the title reads somehitng like 'girl dies in Trump approved raid'. Why have that as a title, it's a given that all these raids have to be approved by the president, they can't just go and raid willy nilly. That title clearly blames Trump for that girls death personally.

You think it isn't, like the child on the beach with the refugees, I think it is.

We'll just have to agree to dissagree.

(03-02-2017 14:57 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 06:44 )munch1917 Wrote:  To be fair, I've read several reports on this incident, from different outlets including the one you linked to on msn, and I wouldn't call any of them 'anti trump propaganda'.
The articles I read were a pretty good summary of the facts as they were available at the time (things changed as more information became available). Maybe I'm reading different articles to you, but just because they report that Trump signed off on this mission, doesn't make it propaganda, or an attack on Trump, it's just stating facts.

It's propaganda, facts would be, several civilians were killed on a raid etc.

This is why they use a childs picture in the article and none of the adults.

I don't remember any pictures from years ago. It was 'an attack on Iraq happened several cicivians were killed including chidren', collateral damage, soz about that.

When you start adding pictures of cute little girls at the top of the article, that's when it tips it from being a report of the facts to something emotive, especially when the title reads somehitng like 'girl dies in Trump approved raid'. Why have that as a title, it's a given that all these raids have to be approved by the president, they can't just go and raid willy nilly. That title clearly blames Trump for that girls death personally.

You think it isn't, like the child on the beach with the refugees, I think it is.

We'll just have to agree to dissagree.

What do you believe Trump will do to make things better?

(03-02-2017 11:29 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  In the months to come the view held of him will be as it is now. As for Conway she is very smart and manipulate. She is a dangerous woman.

It may just be, but I'd be more interested if that view would be held for what he is actually doing for America and elsewhere, or deep prejudice that are already in place.

If the more extreme policeys will be reigned in or extended.

May be even if the economy of America is improved, trade with UK following Brexit makes Brexit a whole heap easier for the UK, ISIS will be tackled and damaged more than it has been up to yet, the more extreme policies will have become more reasonable, May be then poeple will still hate on him; people just want to hate on him.

(03-02-2017 15:06 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  What do you believe Trump will do to make things better?

No idea, but what I do know this all started with the US and the west stomping around in the middle east trying to push their will on people with a vastly different mind set (for the oil there).

Nobody, not even the miracle that walks amoungst us Obama could tackle the problem, under Obama it has just spread and become much worse.

May be it will take a more extreme type of president to tackle these problems, maye be the damage has been done and nobody can sort it out.

This is why people need time to see with this president.

Funny how poeple are attacking the multi billonaires business acumen

He would have still been a billionaire if he had just invested his money that his dad gave in fact he would have more.

think the sucess of trump last 10-15 years has been due to his kids who bascially run the companys. in fact would love to see how they do when his business is in blind trust

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...68610ec6a3

(03-02-2017 15:14 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(03-02-2017 15:06 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  What do you believe Trump will do to make things better?

No idea, but what I do know this all started with the US and the west stomping around in the middle east trying to push their will on people with a vastly different mind set (for the oil there).

Nobody, not even the miracle that walks amoungst us Obama could tackle the problem, under Obama it has just spread and become much worse.

May be it will take a more extreme type of president to tackle these problems, maye be the damage has been done and nobody can sort it out.

This is why people need time to see with this president.

perhaps if he didn't have the personality disorder his approach could work. As for Obama no one ever claimed he was the miracle he just came after the mess that was George Bush Jnr so it was relief. Perhaps if the Senate had been more adult and worked with Obama instead of blocking him more would have been done.

(03-02-2017 15:29 )HannahsPet Wrote:  He would have still been a billionaire if he had just invested his money that his dad gave in fact he would have more.

think the sucess of trump last 10-15 years has been due to his kids who bascially run the companys. in fact would love to see how they do when his business is in blind trust

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...68610ec6a3

He's a property developer and a good one. Many of his other business ventures have been disasters.

the Trump property developer business was created by his father

His Father's side of the company covered Brooklyn & Queens. Donald start the Manhattan side with a loan from his Father in the 1970s.