Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

^ Of course it's true. 80 million Turks are going to come & live next door to you in the next few weeks! Funny Boris said before the campaign started that there was no chance of Turkey joining. Seems for his own personal advancement he's changed his mind now.

Funny thing is that boris Johnson is of turkish descent

Turky wont be joing anytime soon as all 28 nations have to agree and theres on big huge country that will say no and thats Greece

(09-06-2016 11:06 )wackawoo Wrote:  What is most interesting is the UK at the moment is not allowed to negotiate our own trade deals it says, has such, does not have any with Australia, New Zealand, USE, India, China or Brazil; having to wait till 27 mainland Europe bias countries to agree with what we can or can't do - is this true?

Surely you're asking the ultimate dumb question. The EU is a single market - that's the reason it ever existed in the first place. In order to be a single market there has to be free movement of goods within the market and common external agreements. So it's impossible for individual members in a single market to negotiate their own trade deals. As I said, the question you're asking must be the ultimate dumb question.

No BBC is not a goverment thing it is a Tax Payer Thing we the tax payer own it along with channel 4. The Goverment of the day doesnt control it. it isnt state controlled media like Russia or China or a 3rd rate dictatorship even if the culture secatary and rupert murdoch wants it that way

in fact most of the paper owners should get a CAP grant for all the manure that they produce

(08-06-2016 21:33 )SecretAgent Wrote:  ^ For gods sake don't trust the Telegraph to give anything approaching a balanced view on the referendum. It's so pro Brexit it's laughable & Boris is a columnist. Of course it's owners the Barclay brothers won't be affected in anyway as they live the life of feudal landlords in their castle on Sark.

I don't trust anything the media or politicians say without finding out the facts first.
I used it as an example of a comment on the same debate but with the opposite bias to sky.

(09-06-2016 11:37 )schvall Wrote:  Surely you're asking the ultimate dumb question. The EU is a single market - that's the reason it ever existed in the first place. In order to be a single market there has to be free movement of goods within the market and common external agreements. So it's impossible for individual members in a single market to negotiate their own trade deals. As I said, the question you're asking must be the ultimate dumb question.

It's worth adding to the above that the EU, by speaking with a single voice and with a huge combined population, carries considerably more weight in international trade negotiations than any of its individual members such as the UK could manage by themselves.

Michael Froman, the US trade representative, recently said this:

"The US is not keen on pursuing a separate free trade deal with Britain if it leaves the EU, as we’re not particularly in the market for FTAs with individual countries. I think it’s absolutely clear that Britain has a greater voice at the trade table being part of the EU, being part of a larger economic entity, and that EU membership gives Britain more leverage in negotiations."

(09-06-2016 11:22 )SecretAgent Wrote:  ^ Of course it's true. 80 million Turks are going to come & live next door to you in the next few weeks!

When did anybody ever say that?

But that responce is telling to me.

(09-06-2016 11:37 )schvall Wrote:  Surely you're asking the ultimate dumb question. The EU is a single market - that's the reason it ever existed in the first place. In order to be a single market there has to be free movement of goods within the market and common external agreements. So it's impossible for individual members in a single market to negotiate their own trade deals. As I said, the question you're asking must be the ultimate dumb question.

So you have confirmed the leaflet - Thanks.

(09-06-2016 11:45 )HannahsPet Wrote:  No BBC is not a goverment thing it is a Tax Payer Thing we the tax payer own it along with channel 4. The Goverment of the day doesnt control it. it isnt state controlled media like Russia or China or a 3rd rate dictatorship even if the culture secatary and rupert murdoch wants it that way

in fact most of the paper owners should get a CAP grant for all the manure that they produce

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC

Quote:The BBC is established under a Royal Charter[9] and operates under its Agreement with the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.

Quote:The fee is set by the British Government, agreed by Parliament,[13] and used to fund the BBC's extensive radio, TV, and online services covering the nations and regions of the UK.

^yeah but it's not government run nor is it bias towards any party who may govern. the bbc is widely known and respected around the world for it's neutrality in everything (except it's commentary on england football matches of course!)