Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

Mark Francois admits defeat in his Big Ben fundraiser

The future of this country at what is its most crucial moment since World War 2, is the hands of a bunch of idiots that can't even ring a fucking bell

Why can't they just ring the bell (I forgotten it's name) that is rung when a ship is sunk at 11 o'clock? or better still get churches to ring their bells at 11'oclock in every community

Anyone excited about seeing the new 50p coin designed for Brexit yet?

(20-01-2020 22:34 )Rammyrascal Wrote:  Oh dear

https://twitter.com/june_mummery/status/...18626?s=21

The penny drops for a Brexit Party MEP

In a nutshell, I would say it would cost us more to have Royal Navy ships patrolling our waters & escorting EU ships out of our waters. But when we joined the Common Market (as it was back then) all those years when we signed up did we sign up automatically to the Common Market fishing policy then? But like everything else Brexit - wise, it will probably/likely take years for us to be free of the fishing policies of the EU. it isn't anything that is going to sorted out overnight that is for sure.

(29-01-2020 07:56 )babelover48 Wrote:  Why can't they just ring the bell (I forgotten it's name) that is rung when a ship is sunk at 11 o'clock? or better still get churches to ring their bells at 11'oclock in every community

The whole bell thing is stupid. It's divisive, celebrating something that not everyone voted for is hardly bringing communities back together is it, these morons are making out that it's some kind of independence day, independence from what. We were always in charge. This is more Tory ignorance, catering to only those that voted for them, which, if you remember, was less than the combined remain votes

Yeah ringing the bell was another crackpot idea promoted by chief nutcase Mark Francois (who would not even exist but for his Italian mum working here and meeting his dad).

I was talking to a local businessman yesterday who was cursing the celebrations from the Tories even though he's voted Tory all his life until the last year. 70% of his product is exported to the EU. If standards in the UK diverge for his product his costs will increase if he is to keep all his customers and has to comply with 2 standards and that's before whatever new export costs and tariffs are applied.
He no longer views them as "the party of business" and call them a "far right cult".

In addition to what the segment by US comedian Hassan Minhaj I posted earlier said about The US & trade policy this thread has been put together by the former Financial Times chief EEC correspondent, world trade editor and Asia commentator. He is a fellow at the independent think tank Ecipe that focuses on trade policy & associate fellow at the London School of Economics.



The thread has received endorsements from Dr Anna Jerzewska, who has 14 years experience in trade/customs/FTAs and is a consultant for joint UN & WTO International Trade centre & The British Chambers of commerce



and Donald Mackay a retired Canadian diplomat and former World Bank Official



But of course they are all elite metropolitan Remoaners why should we pay attention to them?

Well why not get it straight from the horses mouth. Last week at the World Economic Forum in Davos Chancellor Sajid Javid took part in a talk with US Treasury Steve Mnuchin where he talked about putting a tax on digital companies who harvest our data, perpetuate fake news & threaten our democracies. Most of the biggest digital companies are from The US, here's how that went down




Finally as I write this, in light of The UK government's decision to allow Chinese electronics giant Huawei to play a part in the infrastructure of it's 5G network, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo is flying over here to hold talks with our government. His current tone is one of lets see what we can work out with the Trump Admin expressing "disappointment" in the decision. There has been talk of The US threatening to exclude us from intelligence sharing networks which would leave us more susceptible to terrorist attacks, of course with Trump that could be hot air but he has pulled out of the Paris Agreement, Iran Nuclear Deal and built an embassy in Jerusalem so who knows?

One thing we do know is we sure as hell have not taken back control, we've given it to The Trump Administration.

We should be celebrating Brexit today but it appears I think we will be paying a far bigger price that we probably imagined long term from leaving on trade bloc we will dealing with countries who will likely screw us over many more times than the EU did. However it is the last time we will be playing the Euromillions lottery on a regular basis tonight.

(31-01-2020 09:12 )babelover48 Wrote:  However it is the last time we will be playing the Euromillions lottery on a regular basis tonight.

This is totally untrue.

(31-01-2020 09:12 )babelover48 Wrote:  We should be celebrating Brexit today but it appears I think we will be paying a far bigger price that we probably imagined long term from leaving on trade bloc we will dealing with countries who will likely screw us over many more times than the EU did. However it is the last time we will be playing the Euromillions lottery on a regular basis tonight.

Speak for yourself.

(31-01-2020 09:18 )SecretAgent Wrote:  

(31-01-2020 09:12 )babelover48 Wrote:  However it is the last time we will be playing the Euromillions lottery on a regular basis tonight.

This is totally untrue.

we're not leaving europe dude, just the european union.

i wonder how many people who voted to leave didn't or still don't understand the difference?

it's mind blowing tbf!.