Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(08-10-2019 19:29 )babelover48 Wrote:  Did you speak Russian or English?

English to his translator

Mrs T described him as a man we "could do business with" I think she was right. I don't think the West truly grasped the chance Gorbachev offered us with both hands.

(08-10-2019 19:04 )hornball Wrote:  I may not be met with a kind response here, but I believe Putin too has had his actions, and/or public announcements misjudged! I think his intention is not a 'takeover', but instead to show to - not least a proud domestic audience - his strength as a leader, and determination not to be pushed around by the west (specifically USA) as an individual, and in terms of Russia as a whole!

I think I suggested something similar in an earlier post or a different thread.

I personally think there is something in the collective Russian psyche that makes them feel perpetually threatened and under siege and that therefore requires a strong leader to 'save' them from some perceived threat.

Gorbachev saved us from the Soviets. Yeltsin saved us from the Communists. Putin saved us from the Capitalists.

With the oligarchs essentially 'tamed' through a tacit agreement that Putin stays out of their business if they stay out of his politics, he needed another threat to confront and therefore retain his position as the country's savior. That threat has turned out to be the West, which is portrayed as an alliance of countries that want to prevent Russia from taking its rightful place among the great powers.

His efforts to destabilize western democracies by creating discord and sowing chaos is not so much about 'world domination' in Bond-villain sort of way. It is more about impressing on his own people that the grass is no greener on the other side and that they should be happy with the system they've got.

Just another crackpot theory, mind you...

It's being reported that the leading brands of toilet paper are expecting a shortage.
They say that they may have trouble getting supplies into the country and because of this report panic buying has started

Apparently the 'unnamed senior Downing St source' who briefed (or was it 'spun') about the Merkel phonecall, was Cummings sending texts to The Spectator

They should just make him PM, and cut out the middleman.

(08-10-2019 23:50 )Charlemagne Wrote:  It's being reported that the leading brands of toilet paper are expecting a shortage.
They say that they may have trouble getting supplies into the country and because of this report panic buying has started

I panic bought in March and now im running out always the daily mail and the sun to buy if it gets really desperate you havent lived until you had to used newspaper to wipe your arse like the good old days

With online shopping panic buying is a lot easier

A good way to use the sun when you've finished reading it!!

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You can buy things in bulk that way I wouldn't be surprised if there'll be a petrol shortage too if we're not careful when panic buying online...

(09-10-2019 02:27 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  Apparently the 'unnamed senior Downing St source' who briefed (or was it 'spun') about the Merkel phonecall, was Cummings sending texts to The Spectator

They should just make him PM, and cut out the middleman.

mmm an unelected offiicial leading the Brexiteers out of an undemocratic EU led by unelected officials and a return to british laws and british courts and british judges except when you refuse to accept their decisions. Good job we are returning to parliamentary sovereignty... oh wait our current dictators don't believe in that either

Parliament will still be Parliament mate - full of egostical people with egos to match >P It seems sovereignty comes a poor second sometimes

Even the Dragons think that Boris is just in it for the money