HALL OF FAME Discussion Thread

(15-12-2025 11:14 )Charlemagne Wrote:  I've gone through the spreadsheet and there are two columns for Clara. There's been such a large number of girls nominated there was always a chance of problems.

She's been added to the next slot. And all voters will be given the chance to amend.

Strike 3. As this witch hunt has continued, so I have decided to stop doing all competitions that I am involved with.

Hardly a witch-hunt. Forum members are invested and interested in how the QFs are calculated. Having that out in the open aids trust and transparency.

Thank you for all your efforts, Charle!

(15-12-2025 14:36 )Boomerangutangangbang Wrote:  

(15-12-2025 13:41 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  

(15-12-2025 12:08 )TDK2008 Wrote:  Out of the nominations for HOF 2025, I'm hoping the most for Nicole Snow getting in.

I've said it many times, in different places, it's a popularity contest not a wrestling match.

Just count the bloody votes. Highest number wins. No controversy.

Can't find my bit of paper now, but iirc, Nicole would win it. And that would be just fine by me, even though I didn't nominate her.

This post has struck a chord with me, although I don't quite get the wrestling analogy.

The way we do it here it is very much a popularity contest. As has been posted here other more significant and established HOF's suffer from some of the same controversies that we have encountered & in the main they operate on a different format, generally committee based, but some incorporate fan votes.
Our HOF is a HOF in name only, it involves nothing different to set it apart from all other comps.
We could rename it the HOF Recency Bias Awards, which would be much more fitting.

I don't profess to have all the answers, there's no perfect solution, maybe it could be better, the only guarantee is that it will always provoke debate, & that's ok, after all we are a forum, & that is the essence of any forum.

I would agree there is no easy answer or perfect solution, even if it was done another way, some members will not like it, but at the end of the day, if we get a result that everyone is happy with, that is all that matters. If we did it the Eurovision way would it work for some of you?

Here is a novel idea,members nominate just one.Chances of a tie are slim,no more toing and froing,jobs a good un,everyone is happy.(doubtful)

Ok.......so I'm going through the nightshow numbers and it's both tight and complex .
So much so in fact I have quite a lot of sympathy with Charlemagne and lovebabes56.
Just need to double check the numbers and then I will lay out the scenario.

At first glance though it's a tricky one.

(15-12-2025 17:16 )lovebabes56 Wrote:  I would agree there is no easy answer or perfect solution, even if it was done another way, some members will not like it, but at the end of the day, if we get a result that everyone is happy with, that is all that matters. If we did it the Eurovision way would it work for some of you?

You mean the corrupt way that saw Israel try to cheat last year? No Thanks. As we've already discussed open up the discussion on how to run it early in the New Year. I have some ideas that we can discuss then & I'm sure others will want to contribute too

^^ How about we just induct the babes with the biggest tits first & work backwards front there. That will ensure Kelly & Danni will get in sooner than later rather than not at all. ~GENIUSIDEA

Now bear with me, this might take a while.
I could bore myself silly at this rate.

I am dealing only with the nightshow comp at the moment.
The daytime one will have to wait till tomorrow.

Here are the leaderboard positions after the nomination round.

Nicole Snow 8 noms making her no 1 seed
Honey Scott 7 noms making her joint no 2 seed
Sophia Lares 7 noms making her joint no 2 seed
Beth Bennett 6 noms making her no 3 seed
Lucy Summers 5 noms making her joint no 4 seed
Sophia Knight 5 noms making her joint no 4 seed
Dionne Daniels 4 noms making her no 5 seed

and

Lynda Leigh, Ella Jolie, Sophie Hart, Lolly Badcock and Lucy Zara all with 3 noms making them all joint no 6 seed.

A reminder of the draw created.
Nicole Snow (1) v Lynda Leigh (6) and Lucy Zara (6)
Beth Bennett (3) v Lucy Summers (4) and Lolly Badcock (6)
Sophia Lares (2) v Dionne Daniels (5) and Ella Jolie (6)
Honey Scott (2) v Sophia Knight (4) and Sophie Hart (6)

What Charle and lovebabes appear to have done is thus.

They have put two of the number 6 seeds up against the number one seed Nicole Snow as this is the closest to seed 1 v seed 8 that is manageable.

Ok now here is where it gets particularly tricky.

There are two number 2 seeds i.e Honey Scott and Sophia Lares.
There is also a number 3 seed i.e Beth Bennett.
There are three remaining number 6 seeds i.e Ella Jolie, Sophie Hart and Lolly Badcock.

The decision appears to have been taken to spread the remaining number 6 seeds evenly between the two second seeds and the third seed so they all face one of the number 6 seeds in the quarter finals.
A further judgement has been made to then make the draw as close as possible to 2v7, 3v6 and 4v5. The way this appears to have been done is thus.

One of the number two seeds i.e Sophia Lares has been drawn against the closest to a theoretical number 7 seed that is not an actual number 6 seed for the purposes of this draw. That means seed 5 which is Dionne Daniels.

The other number two seed i.e Honey Scott cannot be drawn against a number 5 seed as none remain. So the next seed up the line has been designated I.e the number 4 seed.
There are two number 4 seeds remaining.
Honey has been randomly drawn against one of them i.e Sophia Knight.

This leaves the number three seed i.e Beth Bennett.
She has been drawn against the other number 4 seed to oppose a seed number as close to her own as possible. In this case that is Lucy Summers.

There would have been a multitude of other options open to Charle and lovebabes all of which could have been open to debate just as the solution chosen is.
I am not going to go through all the possible options as it would take too long. And this post is plenty long and unintelligible enough thank you .

Whether any of you like the solution is up to you but it seems to me they have tried to find a way through the quagmire that seems plausible.
I am not going to play judge or jury or declare whether I agree or disagree with what has been done. All I can say is that a solution appears to have been chosen in good faith.
I would hope this can be respected even if it isn't necessarily universally desirable.

This competition, more than any other, always seems to end up being messy.

In a round about way what snooks is really saying (without actually saying it), is that the format is over complicated & something simpler such as the UKBC method would work better & in turn be less controversial.
Once you introduce seedings & multiple rounds you create scenarios were babes can receive large numbers of votes at the nomination stages but them drop off in later rounds depending on who they are drawn against, for various reasons.