Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

Teresa May (The Home Secretary not the 90's porn star) upset both sides of the Brexit debte by announcing that she was in favour of the UK remaining in the EU, but wanted to leave the convention on Human Rights as it 'binds the hands of parliament'.

(25-04-2016 20:04 )cwpussylover Wrote:  lol look at those socialist kinnocks all millionaires from EU

Old Man Kinnock and his equally awful Son are about as Socialist as Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton.

Charly Wrote:Teresa May (The Home Secretary not the 90's porn star)

In fairness, the MP is Theresa. That's one h you don't want to drop by mistake.

But the other one would make a better Home Secretary

Some interesting facts which haven't received much, if any, coverage in this debate.

1), The EU want, in fact demand, a pan-European military force. This Euroforce would replace NATO. We are already witnessing the seeds of this venture. Did you know that there has been a permanent French garrison located at RAF Mawgan (Cornwall) for the past 7 years? This was set-up without parliamentary debate.

2), The TTIP which the EU and US are very keen to set-up will mean that US corporations will have an adverse effect on our NHS, consumer regulations, jobs being out sourced to Bangladesh and the Philippines, to name just two. Again, no public discussion and all the negations have been kept under tight wraps, ie, secrecy.

3), The organisation called 'Common Purpose'. This is a secretive, anti-individual, centrist, Marxist, pro-EU group with extremely sinister undertones. They believe in a global society where a European Super-State in simply one region of this. One president (unelected through a democratic process), one military force, one government (again with no public accountability), and controls on free speech and free expression.

For more information about all of this check out 'UK Column'.

If we leave the EU, we're more likely to get TTIP'd, to be honest. What do you imagine the Farage/Boris "we can make our own deals without nannying EU" crap really means? All the moaning about red tape ignores that many regulations actually makes things a lot better. It would be like ripping out all the leads in a car engine and saying "we don't need those, the car will run much better now", particularly the brake leads.

(03-05-2016 20:43 )Doddle Wrote:  If we leave the EU, we're more likely to get TTIP'd, to be honest. What do you imagine the Farage/Boris "we can make our own deals without nannying EU" crap really means? All the moaning about red tape ignores that many regulations actually makes things a lot better. It would be like ripping out all the leads in a car engine and saying "we don't need those, the car will run much better now", particularly the brake leads.

TTIP is definate under EU...make no mistake only way to avoid is if we leave...its why obama wants us to stay...usa want TTIP

Trump saying we should leave thats the IN campaign winning lol

Hollande is putting the boots to TTIP Good old Europeans, huh?

the website http://www.thehunterfoundation.CO.UK founded by Tom Hunter has a free book you can download that puts the case for staying in and leaving in an impartial way

More about TTIP here:
http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/...-land.html

Quote:An awful lot of people on the Brexit side seem to want people to believe in a staggeringly unrealistic post-EU fantasy land, where the Tory government will suddenly start caring about things like the NHS, the steel industry and clamping down on tax-dodging. Even worse than, they they seem to expect people to be gullible enough to believe that the unrestrained Tories wouldn't concoct so-called "trade deals" that are much worse than the TTIP corporate power grab, and that stripping the English regions of their only proportional elections would somehow make Britain more democratic!

wot a nob the PM is...we are going to expolde in a war if we leave...the dopey cnut....imho lol