Coronavirus - is enough being done to contain it?

(19-01-2022 16:06 )uwot Wrote:  Mask weirdos in the mud.

Time for insufferable restriction supporters to go find something else to cry about, or do us normal folk a favour and stay inside and cry to yourselves.

Mask weirdos? After nearly 2 years of Covid-19 it is too much to ask or require people to wear masks while infections are running at such a high level. I mean it isn't like there are still millions of clinically vulnerable people, it isn't like a proportion of people will have long-term morbidity or that now is the time that we can actually flatten the infection curve so that the NHS staff can cope with Covid-19 cases and the backlog of elective care.

(22-01-2022 17:36 )hornball Wrote:  Can someone explain the numbers (both infections and deaths) that are still being released day - by - day if we are over the worst?? - deaths in their hundreds on a number of days (I get the 28 day time lag) I ask this - not to suggest we aren't - but as a genuine question of those that may know the answer

The number of people who die is around 3 weeks behind the infection number so the peak of people die will be towards the end of the coming week, these will be people who got covid around xmas time with the end game playing out now,
But it's also important to remember that just because someone had covid it doesn't mean they die from covid , many scientists have been calling for this to be pointed out for over a year as it makes there job harder as they need to know who actually die from covid research is suggesting that the number is around 50% lower than that reported each day,

(22-01-2022 18:07 )Goodfella3041 Wrote:  It’s a fair assumption, I suppose. We have to get back to normal one way or another. I’m less troubled by decisions taken over the past two months than I am by the foolhardy decisions taken last summer to create the impression that the pandemic was over, when it patently wasn’t.

But it was that decision to allow the country to build towards herd immunity over the summer that's later off now with 95% of UK population having some sort of immunity coming into the winter , omicron found it couldn't run wild like it did in the rest of Europe and we have had a lower peak and it's passed faster as it had less people to infect, a number of European countries are now following our 2021 here immunity play notably Spain and Portugal as they see it rightly as the best long term outcome,

(23-01-2022 12:33 )winsaw Wrote:  

(22-01-2022 17:36 )hornball Wrote:  Can someone explain the numbers (both infections and deaths) that are still being released day - by - day if we are over the worst?? - deaths in their hundreds on a number of days (I get the 28 day time lag) I ask this - not to suggest we aren't - but as a genuine question of those that may know the answer

The number of people who die is around 3 weeks behind the infection number so the peak of people die will be towards the end of the coming week, these will be people who got covid around xmas time with the end game playing out now,
But it's also important to remember that just because someone had covid it doesn't mean they die from covid , many scientists have been calling for this to be pointed out for over a year as it makes there job harder as they need to know who actually die from covid research is suggesting that the number is around 50% lower than that reported each day,

Winsaw is right to say that the daily death figures are an overstatement of the real position because they are the number of deaths within 28 days of a positive test which was a method (along with 56 days) that was created by Public Health England. By this measure we have had just over 150,000 deaths but the official mortality data is released on a weekly basis and collates deaths in each local authority by death certificate that gives cause of death and up to two underlying causes. By this measure we have had over 175,000 deaths although at the start of the pandemic some wouldn't have been counted as Covid-19 deaths as it was a novel virus and so it would not always have been certified by a medic as the cause of death. The best way of looking at it is the number of excess deaths over what would have been expected and the number of years of life lost. We also need to think beyond mortality figures and measure the morbidity impact of long Covid in terms of Disability Adjusted Life Years.

Lawrence Fox who has claimed Covid is just flu has got Covid. Unsurprisingly he’s taking horse dewormer for it (Ivermectin) because of course if he didn’t give a shit before he certainly will now

Denmark has removed all it's covid restrictions.
81% of the population is double vaccinated and 60% has had the booster.

Yet it's covid numbers are the 2nd highest in the world (per population)

Their Health Minister says that the hospitalisation rate has been dropping.

The expert on TV this morning who suggested that covid had been kind to young people in 2020.
Statistically there were 300 less deaths within their group, mostly because of lockdown and less traffic accidents and only about 100 of them had died due to covid.

But his statement seems a little flawed to me

I agree, if no one ever left the house, there would be zero road deaths.

Prince Charles has test positive for Covid, he's self isolating.

Am i right in thinking he has had it once before?