Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

More scaremongering here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42315280

Quote:The Rand Corporation study said the worst option would be a "no deal".
That would leave the UK economy 4.9% poorer by 2029.
"No deal" would also have a negative effect on the EU economy, but it would be "relatively minor".
The report said that even a "soft Brexit" involving staying in the free market would not be as positive economically as staying in the EU.

Those mean old spoilsport Americans, huh?

The House of Commons votes in favour of Dominic Grieve MPs Amendment 7 to the governments Brexit Bill, allowing parliament to get a meaningful vote on the final outcome

This is what take back control looks like, Parliamentary Sovereignty in action

Congratulations Brexiteers

(14-12-2017 00:42 )southsidestu Wrote:  Congratulations Brexiteers

But they lost

(14-12-2017 07:58 )Doddle Wrote:  

(14-12-2017 00:42 )southsidestu Wrote:  Congratulations Brexiteers

But they lost

I think he's taking the piss

Their idea of 'take back control' was a Brexiteer Dictatorship.

We should have been way further down the Brexit road than we are now talks should have started the day we triggered Article 50 - I have a horrible feeling that this commons defeat will only allow Parliament go completely what the public vote wanted in their meaningful vote last year and the referendum vote will have been meaningless

^ The public were never asked to vote on the type of Brexit they wanted. One thing is clear though - the Brexiteers have shouted long and hard that they wanted sovereignty returned to Parliament and that is what they got last night

hopefully all the crowing remoaners last night will see it fall apart with a hard exit

A short video clip of Nick Clegg looking daft (as usual) - https://twitter.com/daily_politics/statu...2338999297
I've seen this a few times over the last year or so, and it's always made me laugh.

Lately though, on reflection, I think it's right to blame the media for not explaining the potential consequences of Leaving, they obviously didn't feel the need to warn people about all this beforehand. Especially Sky News and many at the BBC who are now forever screeching & preaching the Remoaner side of things. Impartiality goes quickly out of the window when Brexit is the topic.
Then again, maybe drama brings in the viewers, so it's alright for them. Business as usual.

"The road to Good Intentions be paved with Hell"

how anyone thinks they can vote to reject a deal in parliament and they will get a better one by sending them back to renegotiate it completely baffles me

(14-12-2017 14:09 )Jam Da Man Wrote:  Lately though, on reflection, I think it's right to blame the media for not explaining the potential consequences of Leaving, they obviously didn't feel the need to warn people about all this beforehand. Especially Sky News and many at the BBC who are now forever screeching & preaching the Remoaner side of things. Impartiality goes quickly out of the window when Brexit is the topic.

It is interesting that you say that, because I still support Remain, and to me, the BBC & Sky seem to be constantly pushing Brexit as a good thing, interviewing believers like IDS or Farage, and whenever anyone tries to say a word against, they bring up the 52% thing. Murdoch, for one, is unlikely to be against Brexit.