Evelyn (Daytime Queen 2018) - S66 Dayshow Chat & Discussion (Only)

Now that the dust has settled, perhaps a few moments of quiet mature consideration before we hopefully move on.

I do not totally disagree with all of what t bone wrote. Some of his observations I agree with, or at least understand. I generally disagree with many of his conclusions, and, of course find his trollery totally abhorrent. His case would have been much stronger if he had carefully read other peoples' comments before abusing them.

I understand his criticism about the lack of movement - but we've done this before. As well as the arrival of Ofcom which ended the daytime sexiness, we have to endure the lack of a daytime cameraman and the use of static cameras for all or most of the day making major movement impossible. In addition we now have the use of the pervcam which wasn't around in the days of The Pad. Some girls start their shift with the cam pointing up their skirt and are inevitably statues for much of the day. Studio 66 alone is responsible for the lack of cameraman, and not the girls. (I emailed S 66 months ago asking if a cameraman could be made available for some of the day - perhaps others should do the same). The company, the girls themselves, and us, the punters who ask for the p.cam, must share the blame for the lack of movement that this causes, and which so many fans criticise.

Another criticism is that Evelyn only uses one set. She has said that she can concentrate on her callers and her job much better away from the hurly-burly of the main studio. Also she told me that when she used the office set (still frequently requested) she was repeatedly told by her callers to get back on the bed because they wanted to see her bum! We constantly forget that other fans have different tastes from us, and that the girls are continually trying to please part of their audience, while irritating the rest of us!!!! We may remember that when Evelyn came back from Ukraine last summer, she had injured her back, and did almost a whole show standing up or sitting on the edge of a desk. Many were well pleased with the change, but the first comment on the chat line was "Evelyn, lie down on the bed"! We just cannot accept that we all have different likes and dislikes, and that ours might not be the most popular. There are footlovers, bum men, and boob boys....you can please some of the people some of the time....

On the subject of complaining to the company about program content, I have some agreement with what t bone said. My opinion in full is that there is no point in complaining if you are just a tv or online viewer with no intention of participating - only participants fund the business. There is possibly not much power behind your complaint if you are a participant and clearly will remain a participant. However, if you tell them that you and your friends don't phone in, but would do so if the company only did this...., or that you are a regular user, but intend to stop and go elsewhere because....you can be sure that they will at least consider your point of view. It's about money in the end, they are a business.

But I disagree with what I thought t bone was hinting at - that the company and the girls are equally and jointly responsible. The company's aim is to make a profit. On the other hand what the girls do on their shows is try to please the punters. We ask for the girl to lie on her back, or take her shoes off, or use the pervcam. We are, to some extent, in control of what we get to see. If a telephone caller just wants to ask Evelyn about her holidays, the viewer is not going to get visual excitement! And yes, the girls make their money by pleasing us. I did think that t bone was suggesting that the girls and the company were equally responsible for things such as lack of movement - possibly I misunderstood him - but the situation is much more complex than that.

The pervcam which massively encourages a total lack of movement is also a huge financial incentive for the girls. I have no details of the true rewards, but if I may create a scenario with figures which I have invented for consideration... Girl A is paid £50 per hour just to look pretty and take calls, but she gets an additional £1 per minute for each pervcam viewer. If she gets an average of say 5 viewers at any one time, her £50 per hour becomes £350 per hour!!! We cannot be surprised that some girls cam most of the day, whatever the true figures may be! On this issue we will struggle to see movement, and in any event, the punters ask for pervcam use! I admit to being surprised that Evelyn only uses the cam occasionally during the day.

I hope this makes the situation and my opinions clearer, and hope we don't need to revisit this area again for some time. The facts are complex and interwoven, and it seems that we all have different opinions. We must accept that we like different things and that a person with a slightly different view from ours is not necessarily wrong. We should be able to agree to disagree with reasonable politeness.

look at the absolute state of you lot. trollery and abuse? give over. you all know damn well i'm right and if her and the channel made some changes you would be raving about it. jesus christ her skirt lifts up a bit and it's the best thing ever.
i'd rather be a serious potential customer with a complaint than a guy like shandyhand that doesn't care about better shows and that just roams forums looking for a battle of wits and pretending to be the reason police. not interested in your essays, i've made all my points, they're on previous pages, not repeating them, you have no argument here with me.

^Find yourself a new girl to watch. Everyone else seems to be enjoying Evelyn's shows more than ever so if you don't like her shows then don't watch. "A serious potential customer". She has plenty of "serious customers" already.

If I have read your comments correctly you still have not said specifically what you want her to be doing that would make you happy. You just keep on saying she's lazy and boring.

Evelyn has created that skirt lifting up being the best thing ever by herself by holding back and improving gradually by teasing. She always liked to tease, that's part of her show. If you are not a fan of that then I don't think evelyn is the girl for you.

It's like everyone talks about her doing a nightshow but I personally don't want it. The more she holds back the more you appreciate the smaller things/'big things' like her showing off her ass.

(22-02-2019 20:50 )jj33 Wrote:  It's like everyone talks about her doing a nightshow but I personally don't want it. The more she holds back the more you appreciate the smaller things/'big things' like her showing off her ass.

Precisely.

(22-02-2019 20:04 )T Bone Wrote:  look at the absolute state of you lot. trollery and abuse? give over. you all know damn well i'm right and if her and the channel made some changes you would be raving about it. jesus christ her skirt lifts up a bit and it's the best thing ever.
i'd rather be a serious potential customer with a complaint than a guy like shandyhand that doesn't care about better shows and that just roams forums looking for a battle of wits and pretending to be the reason police. not interested in your essays, i've made all my points, they're on previous pages, not repeating them, you have no argument here with me.

You claim not to be interested because you can not counter my points in any reasoned fashion.

And if Eve is so lazy and poor why attempt to influence her here - that can only be because you know full well that she has an almost peerless potential amongst current day babes and a similiar unique responsiveness to her own thread - otherwise you wouldn't be here at all.

You have been attracted by her self evident advances in the last year or so and want to see more of it like the rest of us. Yet for some reason you wish to set yourself up as some hard-nosed, tell it like it is, salt of the earth type. Unfortunately you wank with the same daft expressions as the rest of us and no one here is buying your self proclaimed sense of superiority.

Why bother to stir trouble amongst guys looking to work with what Eve is trying to do? Can you do no more? Is your only device towards the babe just to bitch at her?! (It's funny you claim to be only speaking to Eve but can not resist each successive stir of the pot once you sense action here.)

(22-02-2019 22:26 )ShandyHand Wrote:  (It's funny you claim to be only speaking to Eve but can not resist each successive stir of the pot once you sense action here.)

i have zero interest in a back and forth with you. i have nothing new to say, all my points have been made, i am requesting you read my previous posts and accept that i have said all i wanted to say and anything further is a discussion i do not want. you have not said anything at all that deserves serious consideration. i know that hurts your pride, but just accept it.
the part of your post i have quoted warrants a reply because of how idiotic it is and is making me out to be something i am not, a simple reply which is - i am not stirring any pot, i am not claiming to be only speaking to evelyn, i said my first post in this thread was aimed at her and nobody needed to reply to it as it was a message to her since she apparently reads this thread which i didn't know. everything else is a reply to people that keep baiting me into discussion which they are free to stop and i would like them to stop. the one and only time i invited any talk is the other night when she was praised for her end of shift and i asked "what happened, did i miss something". i was looking for an answer from any member on here and had no intentions on replying if someone answered. it didn't work out, obviously.
my points have been made. no need to address me or post about me or anything, it's done. i don't want this moved to the twilight zone as i believe my posts deserve to stay here but any further bait from you lot will degenerate this further. enjoy your weekends. cheers.

T bone wrote -


the one and only time i invited any talk is the other night when she was praised for her end of shift and i asked "what happened, did i miss something". i was looking for an answer from any member on here and had no intentions on replying if someone answered. it didn't work out, obviously.



Sorry T bone, I think you should try reading what you write. You asked a question, and "had no intentions on replying if someone answered". Really? I answered it by giving you the opinions of several people, and as you don't trust our opinions, I suggested that you could watch the video and make up your own mind. Despite having no intention of replying (allegedly) you promptly replied complaining that this was "garbage", and that the reply was "subjective"! That means that you asked for peoples' opinions and then complained bitterly that you received an opinion as a reply?????

And then you rant about us!!!!!

(22-02-2019 22:55 )T Bone Wrote:  ....everything else is a reply to people that keep baiting me into discussion...

Deftly plays The Victim card. This one knows all the tricks of trolling.

(22-02-2019 23:57 )Rake Wrote:  Deftly

thanks for the compliment, but your assumptions about me are wrong, as i said, have a good weekend.

(23-02-2019 00:19 )T Bone Wrote:  

(22-02-2019 23:57 )Rake Wrote:  Deftly

thanks for the compliment, but your assumptions about me are wrong, as i said, have a good weekend.

Sorry, but you cannot accept "deftly" as a compliment unless you accept the context in which it was stated. You must accept Rake's comment as a fact, or claim it is a mistake. Taking one word and rejecting the rest doesn't work.