Xpanded tv - General Chat & Discussion

(03-02-2020 13:09 )winsaw Wrote:  Think everyone is missing the point, it's not about how bs and 66 let the girls us OF its about the fact XP are not letting girls use it, even with 66 wanting 25% they are still letting the girls make lots of money off it where as XP are not letting the girls make anything from it , that's the issue XP trying to control all the girls earnings to keep them under there thumb

I'd still say the points are relevant winsaw. Three different channels, three different approaches to the 'OF problem'.

Occurs to me that the size or organisation of the channel may influence the answer. BS, the colossus of the babechannel game, make enough cash not to feel threatened by OF. S66 and XP, on the other hand, are smaller & may have more insecurity issues about OF taking away from their control of their resources aka the babes. The cut S66 are taking seem to ease those insecurities. And yes the issues XP have had with the babes (and this forum), may point towards control freakery but I can't confirm that.

On a side note, I feel Honey Scott would by one XP babe who would have had a big enough OF following by now not to need XP. But the fact she's been on the channel since year dot indicates she's more than happy with just that.

Do you work for OF seduced?! (Soz but when a poster's very first contribution is basically a promo piece...)

(03-02-2020 05:37 )seducedx6 Wrote:  ... it is rather the case, in many instances, that these channels and websites are "parasitic" to the presenters ...

Yes the situation has turned around from OF's early days. Hence why I acknowledged the shift that has taken place as it has gotten more established and why I choose to term the current relationship as affecting to be more "symbotic". We are broadly on the same page here but I maintain many a cam model with the biggest following would still benefit from the 'cache' of being a babeshow babe and all that entails. (Although I admit that star is fading fast the way they keep eroding their own lustre.) 

(03-02-2020 05:37 )seducedx6 Wrote:  ... The greater problem for these channels, seems to be, how to reconcile, the more flexible employment practices, which are increasingly the wider norm, with being on tv ...

No traditionalist trying to hold back any tide, me. I love the shows' increasing ability to be off TV. The move's needed for lots of reasons (though 66 look like they need to be careful not to throw the baby out with the TV bathwater at this point). The more true competition with the cam only sites is allowed to dictate; the more I will welcome it. Nor do I deny any social medias right to exist. I don't wish OF away. I'm only saying that guys need to see its negative impacts on the shows.

That's the one thing you fail to address I note: The central argument of my o.p. - that what the babes do on OF can deny the babeshows money.

It's the specifics of OF's business model and the babeshow babes use of it that is in basic conflict with this industry. One example: After Lola left early the other  night several guys jumped on twitter to offer support to her. One guy wanted her to continue to reach out more. He asked her to come on OF instead.

In other words that guy could easily content himself with interacting with Lola on OF - if she consents to ask him to pay for it on there. The nature of that interaction could be anything that the babeshow's currently offer. He may then have no need to wait and pay for interaction on her next babeshow.

While it's implied you see only cross promotion above, you must allow there's a chance for this guy's interactions to be usurped. That's the same across the board and why, I think, 66 felt they could ask for compensation. The threat is real despite the cross promotion.

Look at OFgate at 66 at the end of 2018. No business would be looking to rid itself of well established names if there were no issues surrounding their continuing contracts. OF was intermingled in those issues. If there was no OF most of those names now gone would likely still be making money for the operator; their fans still hanging round the industry more often waiting to spend. How many fans left, like regular interactor teewee, at that time?

On things for sure, you'd get very few around these parts that would argue the babes that have come to the channels since are of a like quality to what has been lost (e.g. Danni H, Hannah M, LAB to name but three "big hitters" - all lost to OF). That erosion in itself can't be a good thing for the industry.

Unless I've missed something in the past I think XP are the only channel that doesn't allow the girls to constantly check their smart phones?

Oh yeah! Two of my favourite girls on tonight Ashlyn and Izabella but no sign of Ms Peach??

Red's the name of the game tonight, for obvious reasons and Honey is absolutely rocking that look with the white stockings, suspenders and red shoes-a real Valentine's treat. The others girls ain't bad neither

Looks like Xpanded have outsourced there fan club as alot of there babes are plugging new fan pages at this site https://www.sospoilt.com/ it looks similar to the onlyfans site which alot of babes use

As I don't know anything about the Onlyfans thing perhaps someone can tell me this-if a model wants to start a page do they get it for free or do they pay a fee to start it?

(17-02-2020 18:23 )GMach1 Wrote:  As I don't know anything about the Onlyfans thing perhaps someone can tell me this-if a model wants to start a page do they get it for free or do they pay a fee to start it?

They sign up to the site, there are a number of them, Onlyfans, Admire Me, So Spoilt etc. I don't know if there is a joining fee but they sign up to a site and then they give a % of earnings (possibly a % of their tips too) to the company. On Onlyfans I think they get bonuses or perks if they refer someone else to sign up to their site too.

I'm sure others know far more than I but that's all I've got

Cheers mate. Those last two sound like sites for the vain
I see XP are trying out a new girl tomorrow Ellie l?

Ellie l tonight-I wonder what she will be like?