Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(16-03-2016 23:23 )HannahsPet Wrote:  ...because people wanted them to be less curly

For which read: Because they are cheaper to make that way.

If you buy your croissants from Tesco you aren't exactly a pastry connoisseur anyway and it therefore doesn't matter what shape they are.

That is a bit snooty.

I rate Tesco croissants as good as those from Carrefour or Leclerc.

They may even come from the same suppliers for all I know.

I don't think ShandyHand's cheaper argument is credible either, otherwise all supermarkets and pastry outlets would be eliminating curved croissants too. As it's only Tesco doing this it's hard to think they are buying croissants any cheaper than anyone else. If there was a competitive advantage in buying straight croissants everyone else would be doing the same.

(17-03-2016 09:37 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  Far be it from me to question you on numbers, but you do realise Sainsburys buy from more than one farmer.

UK agriculture employs almost 1/2m people and 10's of thousands more in ancillary industries. The weak position of farmers when trading with supermarkets lies in the fact that it isn't just one farmer.

I realise that, this is why I used the plural. But if you look at the packaging on, say tomatoes, most and the cheapest are from the continant. UK produce is nearly always more expensive and sold at a premium, even in season.

Quote:There is no reason to suppose supermarkets will be forced to stop sourcing from the EU following Brexit, unless you think there will be trade barriers once we're out.

Bingo! the UK would be better off out Europe if trade links were maintained. It would only be a block on trade that would make the UK worse out of it. Sounds to me like there's been some blackmail going on behind closed doors, the more I see of this the more I'm convinced of it

Good news for wackawoo - IDS has resigned as W&P Secretary, leaving him free to up his anti-EU stuff, whilst also fitting pro-EU Osbourne up as a wicked monster.

^ After the budget the Minister of Works and Pensions has become a poison chalice. How could any minister defend what is planned with the Personal Independence Payment.

^ The report that led to that policy was it seems commissioned by IDS's department. The policy was developed by his department. If he was going to resign he should have done it before the budget rather than agree to the savings he committed his department to. Never did like the man & this feels like it's a heavily Brexit related political act. Bet his replacement is a Remain supporter.

(18-03-2016 23:23 )Charlemagne Wrote:  ^ After the budget the Minister of Works and Pensions has become a poison chalice. How could any minister defend what is planned with the Personal Independence Payment.

Any minister who hadn't spent 6 years booting the disabled and the unemployed in the nuts, perhaps?

IDS using the Disabled as his human shield merely compounds the offence of his term at the DWP. Good riddance to bad rubbish

Its all a ploy by ids he wants to lead the out campaign and he knows if he is the face of Cutting disabled benefits then he will be seen as a cunt and wont go down well with the undecided's

Seems to have problems with the cuts but been in place where he has been cutting disabled benefits for years and year he will always be the face of the cuts to many people who have suffered

You know whats next he will be saying if we leave europe the disabled can have all there money back and will live like kings

(17-03-2016 12:50 )admiral decker Wrote:  If you buy your croissants from Tesco you aren't exactly a pastry connoisseur anyway and it therefore doesn't matter what shape they are.

one company make the naans for aldi/m+s/asda/sharwoods/waitrose/tesco etc etc