Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

(30-06-2016 19:57 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(30-06-2016 18:59 )SecretAgent Wrote:  Wackawoo in the points based system you don't get your work visa unless you pass the points threshold. What Cameron negotiated with the EU was that you had to have a job and could not immediately claim benefits. That looks like a pretty good deal to me now.

So, why didn't he make more of this at the time? to me this is the first time I have heard of this. What a chump he is, I can only assume everybody thought remain would win and it's sent everybody in a spin.

He did but people would not listen as the Leave campaign used "control of our borders" "can't send deport criminals" and other noise to drown it out. Bear in mind when Leave were losing the campaign on the financials they turned to Immigration and unleashed the venom that for far too many voters made up their minds. Just look at the increase in hate crimes since the vote.

(30-06-2016 21:14 )ShandyHand Wrote:  No, (under) 4 in 1000 equals (under) 1:250. The last couple of years have presumably been above the average of the 15 years referenced.

I gets ya, misread your post.

If Camroon and his camp had explained that points system very clear it would make imigration a complete mute and non existing issue.

Althought there is an hell of an increase in foreigners round here, may be they just spread up from london.

(30-06-2016 21:43 )SecretAgent Wrote:  He did but people would not listen as the Leave campaign used "control of our borders" "can't send deport criminals" and other noise to drown it out. Bear in mind when Leave were losing the campaign on the financials they turned to Immigration and unleashed the venom that for far too many voters made up their minds. Just look at the increase in hate crimes since the vote.

This is the first time I have heard of this points base system, let alone your figures, even on this thread.

I is a bit odd that if this referendum was only advisory, why Cameroon didn't say next morning, thanks for that, but thats not a big enough margin of victory to go through with such a momentous decision, so bugger off.

He may have lost the next election, but by then it probably would have been forgotten by most.

Is 2016 the year political punditry died? More experts & comment than ever before. Much of it proven wrong by events.

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(apparently, some people actually seemed to think this was real! )

(30-06-2016 21:51 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(30-06-2016 21:43 )SecretAgent Wrote:  He did but people would not listen as the Leave campaign used "control of our borders" "can't send deport criminals" and other noise to drown it out. Bear in mind when Leave were losing the campaign on the financials they turned to Immigration and unleashed the venom that for far too many voters made up their minds. Just look at the increase in hate crimes since the vote.

This is the first time I have heard of this points base system, let alone your figures, even on this thread.

I is a bit odd that if this referendum was only advisory, why Cameroon didn't say next morning, thanks for that, but thats not a big enough margin of victory to go through with such a momentous decision, so bugger off.

He may have lost the next election, but by then it probably would have been forgotten by most.

Half the North would be on fire now if he hadnt guessing by the racist reactinon and daubings and racial abuse attacks going up in the last week and thats when they think they have won

to me only one candidate and thats theresa may.

(01-07-2016 02:58 )Censorship :-( Wrote:  






(apparently, some people actually seemed to think this was real! )

very spooky that!!

^it's not real mate, just the same map in mono chrome with the date changed.

funny though!

(01-07-2016 05:03 )HannahsPet Wrote:  Half the North would be on fire now if he hadnt guessing by the racist reactinon and daubings and racial abuse attacks going up in the last week and thats when they think they have won

to me only one candidate and thats theresa may.

I'm not seeing much racsit reations on the streets personally, there's some mild suff on face book by a few people.

May be a few people think they can voice their true opnion, but I don't think the UK as suddenly turned in the a cess pit of racial hate, it just makes better TV and of course fuels the remain camps side.