Europe, Referendum & Brexit (formerly Europe..IN or OUT??)

I'm wondering what impact Brexit has had in Moscow. Would Putin now dare to turn off the Gas & Electricity piplelines where Britain is concerned now that we are no longer in EU?

(26-06-2016 16:13 )wackawoo Wrote:  

(26-06-2016 15:28 )Censorship :-( Wrote:  (bangs head against wall! )

I can see why some people have given up trying to have a serious discussion with you, given that you like twist what has been said, or simply ignore it altogether...

But, I'll say one final thing, if there was not, as you claim, an overwhelming vote in Scotland to stay in the EU, at 62-38, what would you call the 52-48 that is going to take the UK out of the EU?

Why are you joining the rude club? despite the abuse I get on here, I am very rarely rude about people or their post.

What exactly is it that i have twisted? You said were's the loop hole, i answered your question

This is what i said

Quote:It wasn't like it was an overwhelming stay in either Scotland or NI, there was a lot of out votes too (wales going the way of England), the vote for devolution when push comes to shove might be a lot closer.

Now I know I am dyslexic, but help me out here

I'd call 52-48 very close this is why I rasie the question whether it was too close to take the UK out of the EU

http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.ph...pid1902355

Quote:These referendums, are they just what the people want? There's what only 3% more in favour to leave, now Cameroon has gone can these be ignored and UK remain in EU claiming there's no massive and clear majority?

I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier replies.

also,

(25-06-2016 16:52 )Censorship :-( Wrote:  SNIP

The SNP manifesto set out their position on a second referendum, which included specific mention of Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will as being a substantive change since the result in 2014, and as such, a potential trigger for another referendum; of course, that's exactly what has now happened.

SNIP

what % of SNP MP's will vote in favour of 2nd referendum for Scotland?

(26-06-2016 16:17 )babelover48 Wrote:  I'm wondering what impact Brexit has had in Moscow. Would Putin now dare to turn off the Gas & Electricity piplelines where Britain is concerned now that we are no longer in EU?

On this CNBC, who are still talking about it, seem very possitive about brexit, they are saying that the UK has took back control of it's country from faceless unelected baurocrates from Brussels, and that's encouraging.

It would be ineteresting what the Rooskis think.

If you think about it the EU, would be like a completely unelected parliament in Canada made up of canadians making laws that every single US citizen whold have to abide by, that would never happen in a million years.

(26-06-2016 16:24 )Censorship :-( Wrote:  I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier replies.

I still don't understand your point, I get that staying in the EU was a proviso for Scotland remining in the UK, and that the UK voting to leave the EU as nullified this proviso, I just use the term loophole to refer to that.


Were is the manipulation?

(26-06-2016 16:28 )babelover48 Wrote:  what % of SNP MP's will vote in favour of 2nd referendum for Scotland?

Do you mean indyref2, in which case, It would be MSPs, and 100%, presumably.

Wackawoo thanks. Ok so the FTSE 250 had its worst day since Black Monday in 1987. FTSE 100 was down over 3% on the day but up 2% on the week as earlier gains had been made in expectation of a Remain win.

SocGen are forecasting falls of 20% & 15% respectively over the next few days.

Moody's have downgraded the UK's outlook to negative & our AAA credit rating is threatened which will increase the cost of Govt. borrowing which mean less money to spend.

Bank shares plummeted as impacts on the UK economy & what jobs they have in the UK caused concern.

Building company shares plummeted as fears for the economy, foreign buyers deserting the UK and loss of lots of their labour force due to ending of free movement were highlighted. If builders lose their staff then all those new houses Brexiteers say are needed because immigrants are crowding them out won't be built!

So how bad do you want it to be? This of course was all even though the Bank of England who were rubbished by Brexiteers Took steps to stabilise the markets.

As Brummie has said his pension pot has been hit and in fact anyone with a company pension will have been hit. If you have a state or civil service pension well guess what - that's funded from current government expenditure so if the government cost of borrowing is higher that hurts us too. Mmm what did Osborne say about needing an emergency budget?

Brexit have no plan. None. they are already reneging on their stupid promises and you expect us not to be worried?

(26-06-2016 16:34 )Censorship :-( Wrote:  

(26-06-2016 16:28 )babelover48 Wrote:  what % of SNP MP's will vote in favour of 2nd referendum for Scotland?

Do you mean indyref2, in which case, It would be MSPs, and 100%, presumably.

yes that is what I meant
Would MEPS from Scotland be allowed a vote?

(26-06-2016 16:34 )SecretAgent Wrote:  Wackawoo thanks. Ok so the FTSE 250 had its worst day since Black Monday in 1987. FTSE 100 was down over 3% on the day but up 2% on the week as earlier gains had been made in expectation of a Remain win.

SocGen are forecasting falls of 20% & 15% respectively over the next few days.

Moody's have downgraded the UK's outlook to negative & our AAA credit rating is threatened which will increase the cost of Govt. borrowing which mean less money to spend.

Bank shares plummeted as impacts on the UK economy & what jobs they have in the UK caused concern.

Yes, all that was covered. They had screens with all the red, oddly, it was worse for banks in italy and spain.

Obviously I can't remeber everything they they say about it, but when markets open on moday you could probably watch it your self, like i say CNBC sky 505.


PS, this is all happening when the UK IS STILL a full member of the EU

^ Share prices to a large part reflect future prospects & expectations. The markets are fearing trouble ahead. By the way Mr Odey an odious hedge fund manager who supported Brexit is reported to have made millions on Friday having bet on share price falls & the pound falling.