US Election & Presidency

There is more chance of Bruce Willis swinging into the White House with a machine gun than a totally credible FBI / CIA "here's what (we reckon) really happened" report.

^^ Whats coming out so far is unlikely to lead to impeachment, so far there is only really evidence of Trump and his officials having 'connections' with Russian officials and businessmen. The fact they keep denying such links doesn't look good for them, but is hardly impeachable.
If there is solid evidence that Russia was involved in fiddling the election, that isn't necessarily impeachable, a direct link from Trump would need to be proven really or else he can just keep throwing the minor officials under the bus.
If there is solid evidence about Trump, or maybe even just his top election officials, having connections with those in Russia who were fiddling the election in their favour, then it may well be impeachable.

The likelihood of such 'solid' evidence seems remote, the Russians at least are more clever than that, but the whole story could still build up a head of steam where it becomes necessary for Trump to resign. Remember in Watergate, Nixon resigned before he was actually impeached.


On another note, part of Trumps speech the other day involved a dramatic dig at the FDA for being overly beaurocratic and blocking new drugs coming to market, including using a woman in the audience who had been saved by drugs (approved by the FDA, yet Trump managed to use her in a dig against them). I've read several articles since completely refuting his claims against the FDA and proving that actually they are doing a decent job and have made big strides in reducing lead times for new drugs.
More smoke and mirrors from le presidento (apparently the drug used by the woman in the audience was only trialled on around 40 people before approval).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-y...than-ever/

He has returned to his favorite thing blame Obama.

He now says that Obama tapped his phone.

I hear the 'make america great again' hats have tinfoil lining

This could get interesting. Either it's a diversionary lie , or he's just found out they've got something on him...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39167110

If the security services of any government of whatever political persuasion had reason to suspect there may be something untoward happening then of course they'd look to monitor their activities. The scandal would be if they had suspicions and didn't investigate!

On Trump's stupid tweet about the Russian Ambassador visiting the White House 22 times during Obama's time I do wonder if he has any understanding of government. Obama and his officials were quite clearly authorised to has meetings on behalf of the US Government because they were the government! Sessions denied any contact and Flynn lied about the number of contacts and what was talked about!

Obama's people have said that no one was tapped during his time

The problem is that as Trump simply put it out there a percentage will just accept it because he say it. He should be required to only tweet something that can be proved.

He also got into a childish spat with Arnie regarding the Apprentice.

(04-03-2017 14:28 )skully Wrote:  I hear the 'make america great again' hats have tinfoil lining

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-...n-tin-foil

(04-03-2017 20:47 )MR PERFECT Wrote:  Obama's people have said that no one was tapped during his time

They would say that, wouldn't they?

I liked the way some slagged off where he could have got this info from, like a right wing radio show or something. If the American President, no matter how crazy, says something as specific as that, a) he hasn't just made it up off the top of his head, b) he's much more likely to have been given it officially from, I don't know, security services who would have such information and tell him because he's their boss (or would want to show him undeniable proof if it were baloney).

If there's any tin-foil hats going around, it's the media who're wearing most of them.

(05-03-2017 08:59 )Doddle Wrote:  If the American President, no matter how crazy, says something as specific as that, a) he hasn't just made it up off the top of his head

Seriously? Where have you been the last few months?