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(05-04-2010 04:55 )BLUEBIRD OFFICIAL Wrote: [ -> ]Of course she's not 'devastated' ! She's happy

I for one find that difficult to believe. We know, or at least have good reason to believe, that Anna cares a lot about her fans. Her posts on this forum are evidence enough of that.

For some time Anna has been promising those fans lots of good things that were to be forthcoming on 'her' web site. She will know that many of her fans have now parted with good money in anticipation of receiving those things, only for you to come along with a bit of clever dealing and put skids under the whole thing.

You expect us to believe Anna is HAPPY about that?

I think not.


Edit: Come to think of it, given Anna's hitherto enthusiasm for posting here, if she is so 'happy' about this situation how come she hasn't told us herself?

This was Anna's last post: http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.ph...#pid481576 timed at 18:28 last night. Since then, and interestingly since your 'talk' with her, despite the fact that she was last on this forum over three hours after that post, you have seen fit to speak on Anna's behalf. What, pray, entitles you to do that?

(05-04-2010 05:16 )vila Wrote: [ -> ]I for one find that difficult to believe. We know, or at least have good reason to believe, that Anna cares a lot about her fans. Her posts on this forum are evidence enough of that.

For some time Anna has been promising those fans lots of good things that were to be forthcoming on 'her' web site. She will know that many of her fans have now parted with good money in anticipation of receiving those things, only for you to come along with a bit of clever dealing and put skids under the whole thing.

You expect us to believe Anna is HAPPY about that?

I think not.


Edit: Come to think of it, given Anna's hitherto enthusiasm for posting here, if she is so 'happy' about this situation how come she hasn't told us herself?

This was Anna's last post: http://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.ph...#pid481576 timed at 18:28 last night. Since then, and interestingly since your 'talk' with her, despite the fact that she was last on this forum over three hours after that post, you have seen fit to speak on Anna's behalf. What, pray, entitles you to do that?

Anna certainly cares about her Fans. What entitles us to speak on her behalf is that she asked us to do so. And if you had read the posts on this today you would know that she can't post herself today because she is not at home.

If anyone wishes to believe that we don't talk to our own contract talent and that we don't accurately repeat what they [in this case Anna] says to us, then there is little we can do about that state of mind except to keep repeating the facts.

Are we done with this now ? It's Elite's site - not ours. It has some Anna stuff on it. People want to pay for that or they don't. It simply won't have anymore g/g from her.

There's nothing to argue about so far as we can see. Can we all just wish Anna's new venture well and move on now please?

(05-04-2010 05:16 )aceman65 Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe now she is. now that all the confusion has been sorted. but during the confusion she certainly wasn't.

And you still have not answered that unanswered question.

And to be honest why are you starting to respond in such a way as to fire fresh fuel on a still smoldering fire.

I have not got anything against you, and I happen to think the same as quite a few other people here. That it was a good bit of business on your part, and will potentially be both profitable and rewarding to both you and Anna, and can do nothing but further her career in a positive way.

But you seem intent on picking bones out of every statement, as if you are trying to defend against an attack that has not actually been made.

Apologies if it comes across that way. We did start with what I thought was a clear message - it become unclear - and a whole thread got inserted into the middle of it.

We - and Anna - just want to get on with doing her premium fab stuff.

Don't know what question we haven't answered after goodness knows how many Posts today ! Please PM us about it if you have a question so this thread can now go to the little threadyard in the sky

Hi All,

Just seen all of this and must say I am shocked at the unprofessional discussion of peoples personal business on the forum but hey!

Just to clear this up I think it is fair to say that the only people to comment on any of the Elite sites or girls sites that fall under the Elite banner is either Elite or the girls themselves. So in short until you hear from either Anna or Elite otherwise I think it is fair to say that its business as usual.

Also should any of our sites ever be closing down then we will give all the members sufficient notice of the intended closure. A full shut down schedule will be provided so the members know when the site will close and what content will be added up to closure etc

So to be 100% clear...

Until ANNA LOVATO OR ELITETVONLINE say otherwise Anna's site will continue to bring you more girl/girl, solo girl pics and vids on a weekly basis.

Thanks and Happy Easter,

Jamie.

There are generally no rules governing what may be acceptable terms and conditions, but other law, particularly "competition law", might be relevant to contract agreements like this.

Hope this helps...

Well I'm happy to say that BlueBird have just been in touch with me, and I can say that they do not have any objections to Anna continuing to do 2-4-1's on Elite TV with another babe.

So we can still see Anna with another babe on our TV's and I'm very happy at that news.

Does she do hardcore? I have seen softcore pictures of her doing girl/girl.

(05-04-2010 10:55 )elitetvonline Wrote: [ -> ]Just seen all of this and must say I am shocked at the unprofessional discussion of peoples personal business on the forum but hey!

I can't let that pass. None of us in this discussion claims any professional status and the only unprofessional conduct in this whole affair has come from the two major players involved:

Bluebird for getting Anna to sign an ambiguous contract and Elite for going ahead with the launch of annalovatoonline,com in the full knowledge that much of the promised content will now not be forthcoming.

(06-04-2010 08:28 )Winston Wolfe Wrote: [ -> ]There are generally no rules governing what may be acceptable terms and conditions, but other law, particularly "competition law", might be relevant to contract agreements like this.

Hope this helps...

I've waited a bit before making any comment directly relating to the legal position as I'm no expert on contract law. However, my partner is - it's the very essence of her job. She's been away over Easter so I couldn't get her opinion until last night.

Basically, ANY contract can be contested, but chances of success will be very dependent upon what exactly is disputed. There is obviously a strong case if the contract contains wording which could be misconstrued by either party. We don't know the precise wording of the document in question here but it seems to me that there's plenty of opportunity for misunderstanding and we already know of at least one instance.

Since it's conception, annalovatoonline,com has been referred to by all and sundry, including Anna herself as Anna's "own site". It would therefore be perfectly reasonable for Anna, and quite possibly any legal advisor she might have, to assume that any reference in the contract to her "own site" meant annalovatoonline.com, unless it was specifically stated that this was not so. Also, there's no other site in existence to which it might refer. We know from Bluebird's own words that Anna didn't understand the real implications of that wording.

It's been suggested elsewhere that Bluebird might have been under the impression that annalovatoonline.com was actually exclusively owned by Anna, although that would indicate that someone who is allegedly a lawyer had been breathtakingly incompetent with his research. If true it would indicate a flaw in the initial drawing up of the contract, let alone any subsequent interpretation.

There is also the possibility that the reference to Anna's "own site" might have been used in the full knowledge, indeed hope, that it might be misconstrued, which is the most unpleasant aspect of all. In this respect I think this quote tells us plenty (my bold emphasis):

(05-04-2010 02:54 )BLUEBIRD OFFICIAL Wrote: [ -> ]She confused a revenue sharing arrangement with actual site ownership. Fair enough - she's a hot blonde not a lawyer.

What we don't know, of course, is what Anna's attitude would have been if she had fully understood the implications before signing. The financial benefits might have been so good that she would have signed anyway.

One benefit from all of this as that we have all gained some insight into how two of the major players in the field think:

One of them (Elite) thinks that "the girls don't matter". (Edit: Jamie has denied saying this and I therefore have to accept that it's only hearsay.)

The other (Bluebird) thinks that Anna is just "a hot blonde".

Thanks guys, we get the picture.


Edited for typos.

the way ive got it no is that anna can do g/g only with bluebird apart from the g/g she already shot before she signed with bluebird. and she can do anything else for her own site. is that right?

yes she can do solo or b/g or anything else she chooses as long as its not g/g. she is only contracted with BB for g/g exclusively.