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It was legal, but some feel it goes against the spirit of cricket.

You are not pointing out when India did the same thing.
There has always been an understanding that you warn the opposition before running them out for backing up.

But we now know how India play their cricket

(26-09-2022 11:58 )Charlemagne Wrote: [ -> ]There has always been an understanding that you warn the opposition before running them out for backing up.

But we now know how India play their cricket

Whether your 'understanding' claim is correct or not is impossible to verify, as many such dismissals have involved disputes about whether a warning was given or not. What we can say for a concrete fact is that there are many instances where both sides agree that a warning wasn't given.

With regard to this instance, the England batter in question left her crease early on a total of 73 occasions, so could have been run out 72 times before she actually was. When she batted with a recognised batter she generally got a head start of about 6 inches, but batting with the No. 10 and the No. 11 her starts were much bigger, at least a foot early and sometimes several feet, although she never left her crease early on ball 6 of an over, only on balls 1 to 5.

So we now know how England play their cricket, don't we Charlemagne?

You keep posting pics of the match, but I don't disagree with you about her being a long way out of her crease
But if India weren't happy with the backing up then they should have given a warning. They only need to give it once per batsman
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The game should be played in a sporting way. For example in one of England's mens match again we had examples of this.
A running batsman was hit by the ball and went for over throws. England didn't run.
A batsman edged the ball into the grill in his helmet. If India had pulled the ball out of the helmet they could have claimed. Alternatively he could have started running with the ball still in place.

What's next sneaked singles when the bowler is walking back to their mark. Bowlers stopping once an over to run out backing up.

(26-09-2022 18:02 )Charlemagne Wrote: [ -> ]A batsman edged the ball into the grill in his helmet. If India had pulled the ball out of the helmet they could have claimed.

Getting visions of the batter grappling with a fielder to stop the fielder getting hold of the ball to claim a catch.
Fight.....fight......fight .

(26-09-2022 18:02 )Charlemagne Wrote: [ -> ]But if India weren't happy with the backing up then they should have given a warning. They only need to give it once per batsman
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They don't 'need' to give any warning. Even the England captain has stated this.

(26-09-2022 18:02 )Charlemagne Wrote: [ -> ]The game should be played in a sporting way.

So the non-striking batter shouldn't be stealing several feet? Is that what you mean?

Yes your correct the spirt of cricket is dead.
It was just a custom and not a rule.
I notice that the following day Lauren Dean was bowling and she stopped and gave the backing up batsman a warning.

The fact remains that certainly in the professional game, a bowler in their delivery stride, affecting a run out of the non-striker, is the rarest of dismissals, yet without exception the opportunity is there to do so. Therefore you have to agree that this has to be the easiest method of taking a wicket. The reason it hardly ever happens, is that throughout the decades of the game, the perception, rightly or wrongly is that it isn't in the spirit of the game. Even in football we see the ball deliberately kicked into touch, & or possession handed back to the opposition, or various reasons, an example of an unwritten rule, an act of sportsmanship.
In the game of cricket, we still see batters give themselves out, what would the closest footballing equivalent, maybe a player committing a foul, & walking off the field without the ref issuing a red card.
We still see fielders signaling fours & sixes, not ever attempted catch is claimed. Cricket still leads the way when it comes to sportsmanship.

(26-09-2022 18:02 )Charlemagne Wrote: [ -> ]A batsman edged the ball into the grill in his helmet. If India had pulled the ball out of the helmet they could have claimed. Alternatively he could have started running with the ball still in place.

You are wrong about this. Under law 20.1 if the ball is trapped in the equipment of the batter the ball becomes dead. So India couldn't have claimed and the batter couldn't have run.

(26-09-2022 18:02 )Charlemagne Wrote: [ -> ]What's next sneaked singles when the bowler is walking back to their mark.

You are wrong about this as well. The ball is dead when the bowler is walking back and under law 20.5 ceases to be dead (comes into play) when the bowler starts to run-up.

Alice Capsey

^ frightening to think of just how far Alice Capsey can go!! She is in many respects already a star, and another in an ever - growing number of women players I would have in a cross - gender team!!

I guess you would have to ensure that men bowled to men (the out and out quicks??) but I can see little reason aside from that. why a male/female match would not work, and be of interest to a decent number of potential spectators.