I must admit that I didn't like the hearses of repatriated soldiers being applauded, although I fully appreciate the genuine nature of those who did it. Given that we show enjoyment and appreciation of a band or comedian by applauding, it just seemed wrong to react in that same manner when it comes to a death.
Personally, I'm still firmly in the silence and sobriety of a minutes silence camp, as I think it is the most appropriate way to show respect.
I obviously started this poll but yes I am in favour of a minutes silence, anybody who doesn't observe it, simple factor, lifetime ban from all football grounds.
But tradionally speaking and I know this having attended Dundee United games all of my life is that back in the day a minutes silence was only ever observed on Remberance Sunday or a major human tragedy such as what took place on September 11th 2001.
I remember reading for example in my matchday programme back in the late 90's that former Dundee United manager Jerry Kerr had passed away.
We never held a minutes silence for him and nobody battered an eyelid for not doing so, this wasn't not done out of disrespect or anything but because it would have been highly inappropriate back then as like I said it was only ever reserved for Remerance Sunday and major tragic events.
I also agree having a minutes applause for dead soldiers is highly inappropriate when I just feel we should all pause for reflection instead and think of the sacrifice the young men have made for us to protect us in the name of freedom, to protect our democracy, our empire and to protect us from terrorism.
They lay their life on the line everyday for us, I don't think it should be too much to ask anybody to observe one minutes silence when you take all factors into consideration.
(26-09-2012 18:10 )admin Wrote: [ -> ] (26-09-2012 16:31 )malicious fan Wrote: [ -> ]when did this minutes applause actually come in?
The first call for a minute's applause was made on 25 August 2007 at Goodison Park for a match between Everton and Blackburn Rovers. It was in honour of a murdered Everton fan, 11 year old Rhys Jones, and applause rather than silence had been requested by his parents. Previously on the occasion of George Best's death in 2005 a minute's silence had been called for across the country, but was spontaneously ignored at some grounds in favour of a minute's applause. The second footballer to get a minute's applause was Alan Ball in 2007 at Goodison Park, also when a minute's silence had been called for. At other grounds the requested minute's silence was observed.
so although they called for a minutes silence, fans at certain clubs applauded instead. i watched a lower league game as well not long after george best died and they started singing his name, cant remember who it were but i know it was on sky.
I remember when Liverpool played Juventus in the quarter-final of the Champions League in 2005, it was the first time we'd played them since the Heysel disaster in 1985 & to mark the occasion we were to have a minutes silence but some of the Juve fans applauded it instead, to the dismay of a few Liverpool fans who began booing the Juve fans at the end of the minutes silence & the whole thing caused a bit of confusion which brought some people to say maybe the minutes appause is a good thing.
Personally I don't see how you can applaud tragedy, you wouldn't clap at a fueral.
There are too many sad events for which football feels it has to pay its respects these days. Except in very exceptional circumstances, Football should confine itself specifically to football based remembrances. That said, neither silence nor cheering is ideal. Do whichever, but a better way to indicate respect would be for the footballers to play the match following a significant death in the right and fair spirit, for the full ninety plus. Luis Suarez not howling as though he's been run through with a pike when he gets a slight tap in the penalty area would be a good start, or Wayne Rooney not calling the referee a wanker because a corner-kick call didn't go his way. Show that you're a mature, well balanced, perceptive member of the human race for an extended period of time as a way of showing respect to the departed. Embodied empathy. That would be something. Too often, it comes across as though footballers bow their heads for 60 seconds as a rote act, then once the game starts they're right back to the brattish stuff. If you're a thinking person, a part of you can be thoughtful throughout times of exertion and duress. Grace under pressure means more than keeping your bottle when taking a penalty kick.
A minutes silence is much more poignant plus seeing that people are going to spending 90 minutes making noise applause can defeat the purpose.
Tragedy's like Munich and Hillsborough are usually observed by a minutes silence, applause is usually when someone associated with the club dies which can be seen as celebrating their life although I suspect the club in question normally go with the wishes of the persons family and what they think to be more appropriate.
Personally I prefer silence but sometimes applause can work.
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For me, a silent crowd has a power to it that is difficult to describe.
There are few instances where a large crowd is silent. Where appropriate, we should keep the tradition.
For me,a minutes applause.
My reasons are based more on my cultural upbringing,when people pass away we would have a 'Night Night' the equivalent of a 'Wake,'but a 'Night Night' is more of a celebration rather than Mourning of death.
So that's my reason for saying minutes applause.
(05-12-2012 17:05 )The Truth Wrote: [ -> ]For me,a minutes applause.
My reasons are based more on my cultural upbringing,when people pass away we would have a 'Night Night' the equivalent of a 'Wake,'but a 'Night Night' is more of a celebration rather than Mourning of death.
So that's my reason for saying minutes applause.
"What's the difference between an Irish wake and an Irish wedding? there's One less drunk person at an irish wake!".
