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Harry Hill for being painfully unfunny over many years and getting paid a seven figure salary.
Help me out here guys (and guyettes), I dont do textspeak. Worked out TBH, but whats FFS? Can guess the first F but get lost after that? A mild rebuke, similar to Tosh! or Fie! perhaps?
(06-02-2011 00:51 )eccles Wrote: [ -> ]Help me out here guys (and guyettes), I dont do textspeak. Worked out TBH, but whats FFS? Can guess the first F but get lost after that? A mild rebuke, similar to Tosh! or Fie! perhaps?

For F*cks Sake Big Grin
Maybe Ofcom will target live football games next because I once read about a guy in the paper who got so furious after watching his beloved Rangers getting beat by Celtic that he threw is telly out of the window. If you ask me could that not be classed as Tv that's harmful.
The adult industry is still seen as bad and is still VERY patriachal and a lot of the times girls are seen as 'toys' (actually said by one of crew member of one of the channels recently) and that they are only there to pleasure the people at home and the crew, which I know of several cases which could of actually gone to court of a crew member trying to get with one of the girls.

The industry has no independant overseaer, it has ofcom for broadcasting but nothing for how the girls are treated, which it really really needs.
(05-02-2011 23:29 )Scottishbloke Wrote: [ -> ]I think RCTV just comes on this forum every once in a while to wind us lot up!! Mind you if that's her real picture under her name then she is fit so you can't take that away from her.

I don't attempt to wind you up, just add my opinion from someone who used to be involved in it all.

and thanks that is me, and if you click on Ramos in my sig there are more pics.

We may not agree on stuff, but all of us want the same thing, to have a good insutry, which it really currently isnt (and not just because of ofcom) that treats the girls right, and one where decisions are actually made by people who know the industry rather than people who don't, although there was a plan about 3-4 years ago to do that, which went dead.
(06-02-2011 13:16 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]We may not agree on stuff, but all of us want the same thing...

Do we? From your past posts I'd say you certainly want something different to an awful lot of us - me, certainly!
(06-02-2011 13:12 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]The adult industry is still seen as bad and is still VERY patriachal and a lot of the times girls are seen as 'toys' (actually said by one of crew member of one of the channels recently) and that they are only there to pleasure the people at home and the crew, which I know of several cases which could of actually gone to court of a crew member trying to get with one of the girls.

The industry has no independant overseaer, it has ofcom for broadcasting but nothing for how the girls are treated, which it really really needs.

I wouldn't be surprised by cases of harrassment. Some people become delusional when they either watch a naked woman at home, or work with naked women, as they start to think of them as toys, like you said. I don't see anything wrong with someone from the crew attemtping to ask one of them out, as some of the women have dated cameramen before, but hopefully they'd have the decency to leave them alone if they are told no. Your more likely to come across less decent people when working in an industry like this, which is unfortunate, especially if the women are being mistreated. From what I've seen lately, it seems as if most of the women are comfortable where they work, so that's nice to see. Also, crew members are easy to replace if they cross the line, as the women are more important, so I think that's another reason why many seem to be happy, or at least content in their jobs.

ofcon needs to leave the channels alone. It's beyond ridiculous now that we still can't see a fully nude woman in all her glory, on adult TV. A nude female body is NOT a threat! ofcon can't accept that even classy people with good jobs, like to watch these channels at night, and it does their heads right in Rolleyes
Well the girls still have employment law to protect them so there should be no problem there.As far as the channels are concerned until they pin encrypt the whole lot then these channels will struggle.How much would it have cost to do this as opposed to the fines they have paid and the licenses lost.
(06-02-2011 18:37 )mrmann Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-02-2011 13:12 )RCTV Wrote: [ -> ]The adult industry is still seen as bad and is still VERY patriachal and a lot of the times girls are seen as 'toys' (actually said by one of crew member of one of the channels recently) and that they are only there to pleasure the people at home and the crew, which I know of several cases which could of actually gone to court of a crew member trying to get with one of the girls.

The industry has no independant overseaer, it has ofcom for broadcasting but nothing for how the girls are treated, which it really really needs.

I wouldn't be surprised by cases of harrassment. Some people become delusional when they either watch a naked woman at home, or work with naked women, as they start to think of them as toys, like you said. I don't see anything wrong with someone from the crew attemtping to ask one of them out, as some of the women have dated cameramen before, but hopefully they'd have the decency to leave them alone if they are told no. Your more likely to come across less decent people when working in an industry like this, which is unfortunate, especially if the women are being mistreated. From what I've seen lately, it seems as if most of the women are comfortable where they work, so that's nice to see. Also, crew members are easy to replace if they cross the line, as the women are more important, so I think that's another reason why many seem to be happy, or at least content in their jobs.

ofcon needs to leave the channels alone. It's beyond ridiculous now that we still can't see a fully nude woman in all her glory, on adult TV. A nude female body is NOT a threat! ofcon can't accept that even classy people with good jobs, like to watch these channels at night, and it does their heads right in Rolleyes

The problem with crew is no one now wants to do it really, well it is the slowest production industry for work as crew. Theatre and other forms of TV are increasing, while adult is decreasing as people know they will be stuck in the industry.

and a lot of the girls aren't happy at all, and put a front on, you wouldn't think it but a lot of the girls have to be fantastic actresses because of the crew.

ofcom is still staffed by people who don't like the industry, i've even said it to them myself when i questioned some guidlines which were published, and was told we're ofcom we make the rules, you're just a producer (which i was at the time), i then did some work for them and managed to make a slight change.

The industry even though you wouldn't think it considering the channels are fairly new in tv terms, are very traditional in that men rule the roost, there aren't many women crew and there aren't many women at ofcom who have enough authoirty to actually change the industry for the better.

I don't think ofcom should back off fully, they should still be there, but no where near as much. and there needs to be an independant overseaer for the industry, otherwise the industry will be no more.
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