The Psychology of the Spend

(24-01-2021 22:28 )Boomerangutangangbang Wrote:  ^^ So this is a Forum, which by definition is a place for exchanging views, discussion, debate etc.

Yeah but fuck it lets play games

(24-01-2021 22:28 )Boomerangutangangbang Wrote:  ^^ So this is a Forum, which by definition is a place for exchanging views, discussion, debate etc.

Well said.

(24-01-2021 21:51 )Nadam Wrote:  my friend

Don't flatter yourself.

^^
am i your friend ?

Feels like this thread needs pulling back on track a little if I can... I'd always planned to fill in some colour of my own on here after seeing how guys took to the idea of the hierarchy. I thought I'd leave the personal specifics to others, but I find the form useful in drawing out more general commentary. Viz...

• #0 is an often unacknowledged notion on the forum and almost taboo in terms of what we hear from insiders. (Seriously, can anyone tell me of an instance where someone from the industry has admitted in public to doing anything that might have put off a spend?! It doesn't happen. Why is that?) Another quality Snook post, the first I can recall in a long time to detail this from our side, is the required reading... Basically what the punter perceives of a babe's character (from her public words and actions) can be a definite impedimenta. In fact, I would go so far as to say there's a vast over confidence in the industry as to the gullibility of punters and how return prone they are. Yes a top babe will command an everlasting pull of her devotees no matter what, but this does not extend across the board. If a 'regular' babe (one a punter might occasionally spend on) is perceived to be at fault a punter's likelihood of interacting with her may or may not be recoverable. (I say "perceived to be" as it's not a matter of objective truth unfortunately. This is the same in all customer service. It's the consumer's idea of actuality that's the only concern. This is why any store or brand tries to be 'whiter than white' in its communications; they can not afford bad reputation regardless of ifs or buts.)
  

• As Snooks implied earlier in the thread, the really skillful babe might be able to override a negative answer to #1 in some punters! Particularly as regards 'the addicts' amongst us! What we deem affordable at any moment can be swayed by the intensity of our desires obviously.
  

• #3 is a source of huge punter frustration, simply because it must by its nature come so high in any hierarchy of this sort. It not only includes tech snafu's but also any limitations in the interactive options available to the punter (e.g. restrictions on tipping scope, lack of certain services/buttons). Options that are missing or more limited with one operator but available with another can, in particular, be deceptively important I feel. We pine for what one operator does well in this area to be the generalised standard across the industry. We drift in the direction of services that are more flexible and geared to our tastes. Businesses - particularly e-commerce orientated ones - have to show they can keep up with the the full range of the tech demands of their customers. Otherwise they fall behind the pull of the better equipped competition.
  

• For me, a major, major, bugbear of much of the modern era of babeing is that too many involved (both insiders and increasingly punters) seem to believe the babe's responsibilities in the services end at a basic #3 on my scale. 'I'm available, everything's working, and you known what I can do' seems to be the limit of it. But for a lot of guys the answers they divine to questions 4 to 6 are of significant importance. Try essential to the validity of the punt. These are elements we judge as of great 'added value' to our punting. We are aghast therefore to see industry insiders too often write off chunks of this off, so conveniently and dismissively, as 'freebies' that can be ignored. It seems many in the industry would rather do fingers in the ears 'la la not listening' to the fact that enticement, and the performance that expresses it, are an integral part of what we're purchasing.
  

• 4 & 5, for instance, are where we're looking for the babe to be enhancing to our overall experiences of her each time we jump in. Included in this area are such notions of content progression, new ideas, outfits, etc. Frustrations or ennui can set in if we see too much repetition in our interactions or a babe's shows generally. The tiniest advances from her otoh, can be sating in a perhaps surprisingly satisfactory way. It's a subtle response. Excitement to a guys' desires can come in the smallest details of a babe's presentation.
  

• #4b: A tricky area for the babe granted. But IMO it boils down to the fact that she must have control of her own chat. She can't let chatters' bad behaviours slide or let anyone be her spokesperson on there IMO. (The latter always feels to me like I'm interacting with a double act! Or worse the pimp before being allowed in the door. Not things many are into babeing for I'd say.)
  

• #5: The idea that an individual punter's contributions can enhance their perception of the overall show (as well as how it's received by other users) is a massively evocative thing to some guys. This factor can be very bonding and loyalty inducing if nurtured by the babe... Also, if a punter's bent is in part looking to aid the show his punting can become tactical. For instance: I won't pay when things are like this because it encourages more of that.
  

• #6 is the ultimate in accolades perhaps. Sad then that it is so often ignored. It's sort of equates to being an ambassador for the channels generally (the opposite of babes that fail at level 0 in fact). It may be seen as gilding the lily by some users, but key babes can pull this off, so it perhaps should be an aim of more of them. (Atlanta and possibly Brooks or Grace are the only current babes that I would say are fulfilling this criteria for me at this time.) Obviously this sort of thing is incredibly enhancing to a babe's word of mouth reputation if she can achieve it.
  

• 4 to 6 are in the order they are because they are incrementally rare then. We can not often and reasonably expect shows on to be fulfilling on a #6 say. But 5 is a reasonable level of expectancy on a normal basis I feel.
  

• It should be clear from all this that positive after-punt affirmation on 2 thru 6 all incline, increasingly, to bring the spending punter back for more interaction. These are signs of properly effective customer service in action. Customer loyalty is the key result.
  

• 4 thru 6 are also why there is an apparent disconnect between the average 'viewer' and your average 'payer' - they are not prioritising their elements of enjoyment in the same way. The former only concerns himself with aspects that are of somewhat lower expectation to payers. Some payers even, sadly, have little or no concern for the elements the viewer puts absolutely paramount - being satisfied to answer yes to questions 1 thru 3 only. While the guy that merely views lives off the promotional bread crumbs and the vicarious visuals of others' interactions (as those payers strive to see satisfied the expectations inherent in 4 thru 6).
  

• Nevertheless, if payers want better value in their interactions/shows and things that are enhancing to our fandom in general, as well as are sense of wellbeing at their own spending (less buyer's regret), then they should be expectant of more IMO. They should be elevating questions 4 to 6 more into subsections of 2. Anything else is selling ourselves short.
  

If anything is my central preposition to all it's that we should be wary of any insider (or anyone) that tries to diminish expectations in order to make the eventual experience feel more adequate. This is very much cart before the horse; and an eventually self-defeating attitude. In contrast, the industry needs to be striving to grant exceptional experiences so that they have a gagging, increasingly expectant and hungry audience looking to up its use. Increased contributions and support, enamor to a newly budding positivity around the shows as a result, is the true path to increased popularity and success.

Hi shandy

Two things that intrigued me the first is and I've asked babe girls this question as well with everyone walking around the studio being the camera person getting babes there stuff and food and everything else. Surly the guys there must be wondering around with semi on seeing and hearing the girls and like wise to the girls who work there as well.
My 2nd one is this I don't know in how to make this a thread on here anyone else is welcome to do this properly don't know in how much it would cost to make up Ur own babe channel but if u could what would you do differently that the others aren't doing I will start this off.
I'm going with babe first knowing they are all self employed and on social media. I would get girls that only want to be on screen beautiful to look at wanting the punters to call in they can have the pervcam and buzz toy if they want it these are TV girls only but have the chance of they want to do naughtier content if they want to. I would get the babes who are more naughty to do either studio shows or home cam shows but these girls will have to come into TV as well to take over the TV girl at that time for her breaks.. My channel would not have other free streaming sites it would be done in house. In this it will cut down the amount of channel babes content being put onto porn sites. A punter will be able to tip in whatever they can as small as 10 credits. One new rule I would bring in is a person in a chatbox just asked for things to be done without tips buzz or calls might get removed from the backstage area. Early morning or night girls as some prefer to do these show times. They will have full range in what they can do if they are backstage.if on TV screen then it's the same old because of ofcom. Every babe will have a target goal to reach if it's home cam it will be per show for a bound to them studio shows might be done weekly or monthly. I would prefer two or three studios as u would have one around London one up north somewhere in the middle and the other one near around Cornwall area that way the babes won't need to travel as far or worry about getting stranded if bad weather happens. I would also have 24/7 customer service 7 days a week there would be a day night and weekend team. If I could also do a special weekend shows of meet and great babes and there fans. I wouldn't stop them using there other miidia platforms but would ask them not to be constantly on it.
Have I missed anything or could anyone else suggest better things I've might of missed

(25-01-2021 01:23 )The Silent Majority Wrote:  

(24-01-2021 21:51 )Nadam Wrote:  my friend

Don't flatter yourself.

Calm down dear.

(24-01-2021 22:22 )The Goatman Wrote:  Stop arguing guys its really bring down the forums mellow... come join the guess the tits game, watcher has us stumped right now

I do love the tits game but the only problem is:

A. I've not recognised any yet

2. I don't know how to post photos

And

D. I've forgotten what I was going to say.

@Dazzler: The visibility of the babes doing 'naughty stuff' (both to other studio personnel and in terms of how the resultant footage is allowed to spread around the net) has been rightly tightened up on in recent years. More use of closed sets is evident and more security/take downs around illicit recordings likewise. This is for punters' own good at the end of the day, as well as the babes', because it ensures they can be as open with the sexual expression as they feel they can be. That can only work in favour of punters looking for the harder material.

But its a job, I expect most guys around the sets get used to it.

(25-01-2021 16:37 )Dazzler Wrote:  ...I don't know in how to make this a thread ... how much it would cost to make up Ur own babe channel but if u could what would you do differently

There have been several of these sorts of threads over the years. Just one search reveals:
https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=77011
https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=28582
https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=17257
https://www.babeshows.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2543