Petition

(27-08-2011 01:31 )Roquentin Wrote:  I would still be very surprised if a parliamentary discussion on this will make much difference as they will likely rehearse the points about child protection on free to view channels and vote accordingly. But it is certainly interesting to see how many signs this gets and how far it goes. /sign

Fact is most MPs are interested in sex but are terrified that their constituents, or worse, their selection committee, would kick them out if they displayed the slightest support for a normal human activity.

BUT if they can point to documented widespread public demand it absolves them of personal responsibility and they can dress it up as Freedom and Cutting Waste at Ofcom.

Why on earth are we paying £154 million a year for a State Censor in this day and age? Its like the middle ages when printers needed a licence and could be closed for publishing the wrong books, or theatre before 1968 when the Lord Chamberlain could ban a play for "being disrepectful of the middle classes". Newspapers and magazines are not licenced or subject to content control other than obscenity laws.

For every Widdicombe or Jack Straw there are 10 MPs who are shagging their secretaries, fisting on Clapham Common or watching porn. One MP has even all but admitted smoking weed as a student. Most want to live in a world where porn is available in all its forms and will still be around when they stop being MPs and start earning serious money. Remember 95% of MPs support gay rights.

They dont need to vote for porn, just support freedom, fairness and proportiality.

ok...so Shankey! signed, he doesnt want porn just more movement from girls who are too afraid to move around much, Scottishbloke signed as he wants sexstation style shows at minimum and now it is implied that the reason to sign is to help your local MP free themselves from their sexual inhibitions.
this is getting really far fetched and as if a bit of flash the gash is all that Britain needs to become Great again. Even if (and remember at current sign up rate it will take 9 years) you get your 100,000 signatures, it does not guarantee a change in anything. (millions of people myself included protested going to Iraq and we went)

I wish you luck with your petitions but I think my point has been made

I think we all get the point your trying to make. If it's unattainable then don't even bother trying. Sorry, but if we all had that attitude then nothing would ever get done. Some of the worlds best breakthroughs and innovations have been made by those that carried on and tried, even though they were told it was impossible.

So I'd rather try and achieve the impossible, rather than sit back and do nothing.

(28-08-2011 00:26 )simplymarko Wrote:  ok...so Shankey! signed, he doesnt want porn just more movement from girls who are too afraid to move around much, Scottishbloke signed as he wants sexstation style shows at minimum and now it is implied that the reason to sign is to help your local MP free themselves from their sexual inhibitions.
this is getting really far fetched and as if a bit of flash the gash is all that Britain needs to become Great again. Even if (and remember at current sign up rate it will take 9 years) you get your 100,000 signatures, it does not guarantee a change in anything. (millions of people myself included protested going to Iraq and we went)

I wish you luck with your petitions but I think my point has been made

And your point was ?

(28-08-2011 00:26 )simplymarko Wrote:  ok...so Shankey! signed, he doesnt want porn just more movement from girls who are too afraid to move around much, Scottishbloke signed as he wants sexstation style shows at minimum and now it is implied that the reason to sign is to help your local MP free themselves from their sexual inhibitions.
this is getting really far fetched and as if a bit of flash the gash is all that Britain needs to become Great again. Even if (and remember at current sign up rate it will take 9 years) you get your 100,000 signatures, it does not guarantee a change in anything. (millions of people myself included protested going to Iraq and we went)

I wish you luck with your petitions but I think my point has been made

I've signed, of course. How could I not after all the whinging I've done? But the man above me speaks too many truths. It's gutting to have to admit it, and I don't agree with his 'don't bother' attitude, but he's right with almost everything he's said so far. The government have more stressing matters, they'll never be seen to be supporting any form of pornography, and the number of signings so far don't amount to even the fainest of ripples.

Our only real hope is for the producers of these shows to start losing money big time - due to a lack of interest - but despite the despondency among the posters to this thread in particular, interest, on the whole, ISN'T lacking... and therein lies the problem.

I agree with most of what you say simplymarko, as I think some of my posts in this section of the forum reflect.

But I am still willing to sign as its clearly not that much of an effort to do so, and according to the privacy statements on the e-petition website, no risk either. Why not sign and see what happens?

Failing this petition, we should strike another one up to shut down offcom. Putting the reported £154 million to better use.

I still urge everyone to sign. It isn't about seeing porn on the telly as has been put, it's about having the freedom to be a bit more liberal on certain things ofcom have clamped down on.

I'd like also to see some of the day time shows improved and perhaps they could as well as the night time ones.

On MPs having better things to think about, well yes they do, but we arent talking about a headline policy matter here. The other side of that coin is that there are departments that have to cover every aspect of governance and so there are usually reviews debated on every area. If there was an e-petition of around 10,000 then it might prompt a question or two in one of those smaller sittings.

Regardless of if they have better things to deal with or not, the fact of the matter is 200.000 signatures forces the issue to be discussed. MP's will look at the evidence that 200.000 people have signed it, therefore will have to take it seriously.

(28-08-2011 02:15 )Money_Shot Wrote:  Regardless of if they have better things to deal with or not, the fact of the matter is 200.000 signatures forces the issue to be discussed. MP's will look at the evidence that 200.000 people have signed it, therefore will have to take it seriously.

Okay, but that doesn't change the fact that no government is going to be seen supporting pornography/adult entertainment.

However, I do like your earlier slant - that of petitioning for an end to Ofcom. That may well be a better angle with which to achieve the same result.