(13-01-2011 22:29 )rawr1 Wrote:  Babestation et al seem perfectly happy taking the money from the same guys via their niche picture/video ads. You can't have it both ways - only recognising that niche interests are potentially lucrative when it suits you is not credible.

The thing to remember here is that selling fetish pics/vids doesn't harm any of their other income. If their experience is that customers who are waiting/listening hang up when a fetish caller comes on, then that will clearly damage their income, most of which comes from listeners.

(14-01-2011 00:47 )vila Wrote:  The thing to remember here is that selling fetish pics/vids doesn't harm any of their other income. If their experience is that customers who are waiting/listening hang up when a fetish caller comes on, then that will clearly damage their income, most of which comes from listeners.

Oh, I understand the argument - I just don't think it's valid
a.) It happened looong before eavesdropping ever existed.
b.) It happens even when girls are struggling for calls, which is not uncommon. As the saying goes - beggers can't be choosers.
c.) If it really hurt their income they would cut fetish/kink callers off straight away instead of stringing them along for as long as possible, eeking out the call costs, until they hung up in frustration.

Even if it were the case that restricting the audience you cater to gave you a net increase in eavesdroppers, which I think can only be true with a highly selective view of the facts - if at all ...I still do not see how it is acceptable for any channel to simultaneously display fetish adverts on the same screen as a girl who has been specifically instructed not to cater to anything but vanilla ice cream. Bait and switch at £1.50 a minute is not cool and I can't imagine any other setting where it would fly.

If company policy is to exclude anything but simulated doggy style and tit jiggling, they should advertise as such ...but of course then they'd lose all that revenue from the guys who ring in and get fobbed off so that's unlikely to happen any time soon. Altogether, a bit cheap and nasty in my humble opinion.

a). I stand to be corrected here, but I'm very surprised to see assertions that there was ever a time when eavesdropping, even if only by callers in the queue, didn't happen. The income from only one caller per girl would never cover even a fraction of their costs, let alone make a profit.

b). and c). It still pays them to string the caller along in the hope that incoming listeners will stay as long as the girl continues with her 'vanilla' spiel rather than acceding to the fetish request.

Cellcast are master con artists. They only actually offer fetish pics and vids, as far as I can see there's nowhere that they promise a fetish interaction - it could be inferred from the other references, but that's all. This is nothing compared with their promise of hard porn on Freeview 96, which would see them following Bang Babes down the tubes if they ever tried to deliver.

It's a sorry state anyway, but hey - they haven't had a penny from me in a long time. C'est la vie

On eavesdropping, It was quite a while ago now, but I'm pretty sure in the old days you just got put on hold in queue until the line cleared if you wanted to chat to the girl on screen. I assume it was a major factor in why they had to make an effort to get guys to text in on the older formats, because they didn't have MMS/3G or any supplementary services bar option 4 (the traditional fob off) and while they would have made money from the queue - there wouldnt have been anywhere near as many people actually staying to wait in line without eavesdropping

(14-01-2011 03:48 )rawr1 Wrote:  - they haven't had a penny from me in a long time.

Nor me, and they're so thick and pig-headed that they won't even listen to why I no longer call or my attempts to show them how to get me back.

Their money-making instincts are very blinkered in some respects.

And to think this is the same organisation that brought us 'Babestation Xtra' and its live text messaging service... an absolute GOLD MINE of foot content. Every night, the girls would indulge our foot fetishes, a golden age in my opinion.

It was never going to last but I enjoyed it while it did.

As for phoning Babestation now... no thanks. There are much more worthwhile and much less expensive ways to be mugged off in todays world. I would only ever call a channel for feet if I saw feet being shown on said channel *consistently*, and I don't see it on Babestation anymore.

The last time I saw feet on there, and the ONLY time I have seen feet on Babestation since the days of XTRA, is when Linsey Dawn McKenzie showed them. And that is likely because she wanted to, and because of who she is, was unlikely to bow to the wishes of some vanilla smut peddling little fukkwit.

If you want feet, phone TVX, Babeworld, Bluebird, Club Paradiso and whatever Bang Babes is now...

I thought this clip was interestingly converse in the light of more recent events. The, er... footage... begins with Jodie and Candy about to show a texter their boobs. At which point Yvette takes the mic and says: "Right; no one cares about your boobs. Literally the whole world has been waiting for this moment..." She then procedes to squash tomatoes with her feet. As such it's an example of a 'vanilla' texter being nosed into the ether to accommodate a 'niche group'. If you look at the Freeview OSGs you'll see that this was recorded during the second short period when BS Xtra was text-only all night. There's no main phone number - just 'Text The Show' in its place. The date was 20th November 2009.

Yvette & the toma-toes (10MB MP4 file via Megaupload)



Here's some more trivia relating to Cellcast's earlier Freeview shows, and some of their contrary attitudes to foot guys...

On 31st Jan '09, Party Girls (CH 46) held a text vote where viewers could either choose legs or feet as a theme for the next section. Feet won by a wide margin. There was also a face-off between boobs and bums, which bums won. My notes say that Dionne Mendez did the 'bumtastic' section (how strange I should note that down ), but not who did the feet. I assume it was the night's other co-host - Camilla.

On 10th May 2009, the Freeview Partyland show announced a foot ban until 03.30.

On 21st Dec 2009 Jodie Cox won the Queen of Babestation text poll on BS Xtra. My notes say the deciding factor was a group of foot fans casting votes for Jodie as she made every effort to service their requests.

On 19th Jan 2010 someone (I won't say who) promised a tights, stockings and feet special on BS Xtra Freeview for the night of 22nd - 23rd, and vigorously promoted it. When the night came, the event was dropped (at least on Freeview - don't know about Sky), and the girl starting the show on the phones advised foot callers to press option zero! Very harsh.

Preeti briefly "got one out" for a caller this morning @12:58 -


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As iloveMegan said, it seems to vary from night to night, whether or not a babe will or won't do feet requests. Some babes are inclined to say yes more than others though.
I nearly fell out of my chair when Preeti took her shoe off, as I've only seen her barefoot once previously (in the shower with Charlie C) so I was under the impression that she didn't do feet requests at all.

i think if they ban foot callers from asking the girls to show their feet and satisfy them then they will lose a fair majority of their callers, i myself watch the channels hoping that one of the babes is bare foot on screen, if they're not then i turn off with the exception of daryl or camilla i could watch them even if they weren't bare foot but it's stupid that they forfill almost every request that a caller has and if they ban something minor like feet then i'll be very disappointed!

I've noticed how rare it is to see any foot fetish content on babestation these days.

The whole profit loss argrument of ease droppers hanging up sounds a little paper thin. The girls are on the phones for hours, the revenue lost from a few ease droppers hanging up for a call which lasts usually 3-5mins must be negligible.

I really hope it isn't banned or even discouraged, especially now that Lilly Roma is workng for them. It would be a sin to keep those gorgeous feet covered up.